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Galileo -- Why?
Can somebody please explain to me the advantages of Galileo and why Europe is willing to spend $3B on it? Who's pushing it and why?
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Doesn't the Euro military depend on the GPS system? They could be worried the US will **** with it at a critical time (like when the American invasion of France gets underway).12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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The Americans who are speaking out against it are saying basically the same thing, it seems.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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The fact that it is independent of the control of another nation is probably reason enough.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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According to newsreports here, Galileo is said to be superior to the GPS system. I'll see if I can get some stats on that...Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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By offering dual frequencies as standard, however, Galileo will deliver real-time positioning accuracy down to the metre range, which is unprecedented for a publicly available system.
The other, and biggest reason, is that Europe doesn't want to be dependent on a system that is controlled by the Pentagon. And that is why so many American officials, including Wolfowitz, have expressed a "concern" about Galileo. The hardliners in the American governement and military don't want Europe, or others, to become more independent from the US, and develop high tech systems beyond American control.
In response to Wolfowitz "concerns", French President Jacques Chirac urged development of Galileo to ensure that Europe doesn't become a "vassal" of the U.S. (from cnn.com)Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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That's listed as a five hour opperation. Do you really think the invasion of France will get bogged down enough for control of the GPS to become a factor?Originally posted by KrazyHorse
They could be worried the US will **** with it at a critical time (like when the American invasion of France gets underway).I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Dino: Don't worry. I think the French will have installed a "surrender" button on the control panel.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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OK, checking the specs, it seems like they're spending this kind of coin to go from a ~4 meter mean error to a 1 meter mean error (GPS has sub-1 meter resolution, but only for licensed and military users). Are there any big applications that would require a 1 meter mean error?
Throw in some anti-militarism, some vague threat that the Pentagon would turn them off or would start charging money for it, and all of the sudden you have a scientific make-work project dealing with 30 year old technology.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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you better be carful they have moree nukers than anuyone else in eyrroepeOriginally posted by DinoDoc
That's listed as a five hour opperation. Do you really think the invasion of France will get bogged down enough for control of the GPS to become a factor?
they muight seelll some to saddamnIn een hoerekotje aan den overkant emmekik mijn bloem verloren,
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I'd be suprised if they haven't sold him weapons in addition to thier under the table oil deals.Originally posted by Assur
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To all: Is the jump from a 4-5 meter area to a meter area of resolution really that big a deal?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Dinodoc: the stated accuracy is 15 meters, but in actually (and depending on the antenna, apparently), the mean error is ~4-5 meters. That's why I edited my post.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Dan, that just made the improvement seem less signifigant.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Well, the numbers are what they are.
3.4 meters now v. 1 meter in 8 or so years. Is it worth the deployment costs of $3 billion + replacement costs + scientific opportunity costs?
" They could be worried the US will **** with it at a critical time (like when the American invasion of France gets underway)."
KH: The US could jam Galileo just as easily as it could/does its own GPS system.Last edited by DanS; March 17, 2002, 16:09.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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We need it so WE can spy on your business transactions for a change.
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