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  • #46
    Egypt could smack Israel around like a redheaded stepchild




    I never new that Egypt had an army worth talking about.


    What about some ideas for the process. Are there any preferred Israeli solutions. Sirotnikov if the Saudi proposal came true in its promises would that be acceptable. perhaps some others would like to chip in.

    I keep hearing the desire to get ride of Arafat, but it seems to me that he has made himself part of the process (least thats the impression i get). Maybe it might be an idea to get to fresh faces in on both sides.

    Would the two alternative PAL leaders be seen as Israeli yes men? are they respected within their own communities?

    Questions, questions.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by BlackStone
      Egypt could smack Israel around like a redheaded stepchild



      I find it a apt description.
      Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by BlackStone
        Sirotnikov - Another question (you must be delighted), how do you feel, and others, about Sharon. I am not meaning to be confrontational but i always hear alot said against Arafat, but what about sharon with all of the trouble in Lebanon and those early massacres that are attributed to him. I have heard him called (by someone in our foreign office) a cancer of the middle east, and thats one of the nicer comments. I just want to know how with his history he is seen over there. Is it a case of the **** has hit the fan and we need someone never mind about his past?
        I think he is a skilled politician and general, but not the best choice Israelis have for PM. Israel could do better and has; Israel could do worse and has.

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        • #49
          I find it a apt description.
          Keep em commin.

          Natan - What about this netanyahoo (shameless sp), is he any better? He always seems like he is making excuses when ever i have heard him talk (thought he was one of ours once ).


          I suppose i was trying to gauge the feeling for this plan or what alternatives there maybe. Seems to me most of the time its just a trading fare of recriminations, who did what first and the rest.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by BlackStone
            Natan - What about this netanyahoo (shameless sp), is he any better? He always seems like he is making excuses when ever i have heard him talk (thought he was one of ours once ).
            Yes, he does argue on behalf of Israel in the media. But he's not really a good politician. He and Barak both kept zig-zagging on matters of both foriegn and domestic policy and could not keep a coalition together. Sharon has kept a coalition together for a year now, and although one party has left, he still has enough votes. That's why I say he's a skilled politician.
            I suppose i was trying to gauge the feeling for this plan or what alternatives there maybe. Seems to me most of the time its just a trading fare of recriminations, who did what first and the rest.
            As always, don't attribute my views to Israel, I'm not Israeli.

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            • #51
              Call it a hunch, but I think that if Israel's attacked, the entire middle east turns into Fallout. And that's assuming the US doesn't get involved.

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              • #52
                Israel could do worse and has.


                Who?!
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  Israel could do worse and has.


                  Who?!
                  Depending on your perspective, you could offer Barak, Netanyahu, Begin or Golda Meir as answers to that question.

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                  • #54
                    In the future, Kamrat, please avoid these cut-and-paste posts.
                    Nope, I will continue to cut ´n paste if it suits me and helps to make an anti-zionist point.

                    Sorry, Natan...
                    I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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                    • #55
                      Well unless anyone else wants to vote i think that we have a result (the kind that would make Mugabe p1ss his pants).

                      So all thats left is for someone to volunteer to tell Sharon and Arafat......oh and perhaps send one of those email thank you cards to that Saudi prince.


                      Any takers?



                      Its so easy when people just sit down and talk things through
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                      • #56
                        Nuke nuke nuke, nuke of earl, nuke nuke, nuke of earl, nuke nuke, nuke of earl nuke nuke...

                        I support Israel 100 percent.

                        If Israel wants to ethnically cleanse Egypt, and the rest of the Middle East, I'm for it!!

                        What I don't like is that Serbia tried to do the same thing to the Albanians and we got bombed by NATO.

                        I predict in the next year or two, something major is going to happen, and everyone is going to launch their nukes at everyone else. I'll just be sitting on my roof with SPF 10,000,000,000 sunblock on hoping for the best.

                        EDIT: I voted no because Saudi's are fulla sh*t. OBL is a Saudi, half the hijackers were Saudi, they can all go f*ck themselves.

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                        • #57
                          Oh Sava how your considered argument could have helped the earlier discussion. Tell me does care in the community work where you come from .
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by BlackStone
                            Oh Sava how your considered argument could have helped the earlier discussion. Tell me does care in the community work where you come from .
                            LOL... if there wasn't such a thing as nuclear fallout, I'd say nuke the homeless, too.

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                            • #59
                              nuke the homeless, too.




                              I`ve never heard that before. Keep up the good work
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by BlackStone
                                nuke the homeless, too.




                                I`ve never heard that before. Keep up the good work
                                LOL

                                the atom bomb.... sciences all purpose solution (if it weren't for that pesky radiation)

                                Remember kids, duck and cover!

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