Time to stop being America's lap-dog; on Britain and the USA

[Bereta_Eder]

the idea is to cooperate in good faith for the common good of europe. not for the petty short term interests of the states.

it is very revolutionary if you think about it. the old ways and methods of international relations are gradually fading inside the EU.

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by paiktis22
it is very revolutionary if you think about it.

Yes, so utterly unlike what the American states did...

[Rage]

QUOTE]the idea is to cooperate in good faith for the common good of europe. not for the petty short term interests of the states. [/QUOTE]
But what the people of those states think ofeach other is a major factor-i went to England, Germany football match or should i say "soccer" and the 2 crowds were ready to tear each other apart!
Im sure that it was ony because england won 5-1-(the germans were somewhat subdued!)that i was able to get out of their alive.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat

Yes, so utterly unlike what the American states did...

it is unlikey the US. the american states had not the burden of millenia of history, they were absolutely new.
they were almost the same, they used the same language

it was like england being devided and then reuniting itself. not so challenging.

OTOH uniting about 45 countries with very different histories, cultures etc is quite a challeng and it is revolutionary.

if the world would ever hope to unite, it would follow the EU model (assuming EU succeeds) because there is no other like it, with such potential for uniting completely different peoples and countries with milenia of different histories and cultures and languages into one pliticosocioeconomic unit.

[red_jon]

Paiktis just hates Brits cos he's jealous of us

[Bereta_Eder]

But what the people of those states think ofeach other is a major factor-i went to England, Germany football match or should i say "soccer" and the 2 crowds were ready to tear each other apart!
Im sure that it was ony because england won 5-1-(the germans were somewhat subdued!)that i was able to get out of their alive.

the same happenes between «fans» of football teams from the same CITY!

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by red_jon
Paiktis just hates Brits cos he's jealous of us

particularly your good looks

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Rage
QUOTE]the idea is to cooperate in good faith for the common good of europe. not for the petty short term interests of the states.

But what the people of those states think ofeach other is a major factor-i went to England, Germany football match or should i say "soccer" and the 2 crowds were ready to tear each other apart!
Im sure that it was ony because england won 5-1-(the germans were somewhat subdued!)that i was able to get out of their alive. [/QUOTE]

That's because football is a stupid activity designed for mindless plebians

[red_jon]

Originally posted by paiktis22


particularly your good looks

*runs away and hides under a large rock. For several years*

[Immortal Wombat]

Can nobody use vB code??

Originally posted by red_jon

But what the people of those states think ofeach other is a major factor-i went to England, Germany football match or should i say "soccer" and the 2 crowds were ready to tear each other apart!
Im sure that it was ony because england won 5-1-(the germans were somewhat subdued!)that i was able to get out of their alive.

That's because football is a stupid activity designed for mindless plebians

Football, the game for gentlemen, played by thugs.
Rugby, the game for thugs, played by gentlemen.

American football, the game for thuggier thugs, played by, well, thuggier thugs...

[Bereta_Eder]

well to anyone who is fond of the EU Britain (and in some degree Greece) are somewhat of a black sheep. Its for different reasons.

[Paul Hanson]

Funny you should mention that. I'm British, in favour of the EU and wearing a sweater with a black sheep on it right now.

[Bereta_Eder]

the "black sheep" terminology is almost uniquelly reserved fro Greece though also «Greece: The creator of problems not solutions»

[Immortal Wombat]

Good tagline:

«Greece - creating problems for Western Civilization since 4000BC»

[Provost Harrison]

Well I think the time has come to stop sitting on the fence and throw ourselves into the European Union with a bit more confidence. I don't think good relations between the EU and US are mutually exclusive, that is more dependent on the US's attitude towards our closer integration into the EU.