Axis of Evil? "Tact" and "diplomacy" not found in Bush' vocabulary.

[Bereta_Eder]

So is Turkey which continues to destroy kurdish villages and kill kurds, supress freedom of press, torturing and killing political prisoners etc etc


You can't choose which one to label a terrorist and which one not to according to your interests.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by paiktis22
You can't choose which one to label a terrorist and which one not to according to your interests.

Why not? You do.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


Why not? You do.

Of course not.

Why not? Because you are a lose cannon and the world will unite against you, like the EU begins to do, if you push it too far.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Of course not.

Then could you enlighten me about the difference between the PKK and the KLA. Just to pick an example close to your frame of reference.

Because you are a lose cannon and the world will unite against you, like the EU begins to do, if you push it too far.

Once the EU realizes that the PA as it stands now isn't the slightest bit interested in peace, I'll start taking them seriously in matters of consistancy regarding terrorism. Until then, objections from them are met with merely a smile and a wink.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


Then could you enlighten me about the difference between the PKK and the KLA. Just to pick an example close to your frame of reference.

Very little. That's why Kurds of Turkey should be helped just like Albanians in Kosovo were.

But according to the US, Kurds are «terrorists» and Albanians «freedom fighters».

Hence the appearance of the US as «protector of democracy and freedom» crumbles down. But you already know that.

Once the EU realizes that the PA as it stands now isn't the slightest bit interested in peace, I'll start taking them seriously in matters of consistancy regarding terrorism. Until then, objections from them are met with merely a smile and a wink.

There is state terrorism and there is stateless terrorism. Both are equally «evil» (to use your terminology)

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Very little. That's why Kurds of Turkey should be helped just like Albanians in Kosovo were.

Now we're getting somewhere. Now explain why you support the PKK and not the KLA, if there is so little difference between the two groups.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Now we're getting somewhere. Now explain why you support the PKK and not the KLA, if there is so little difference between the two groups.

We support human rights. Kurds are 20 millions in Turkey. They deserve their own country. Albanian minorities are far fewer and they already have their country. Of course their rights in other countries should also be respected.

[Bereta_Eder]

Now you may try to give this a shot:

There is state terrorism and there is stateless terrorism. Both are equally «evil» (to use your terminology)

And also justify why you are propably the number one country - sponsor of terrorist groups in the world and particularly in South America and then expect other countries to take your word for who should be labeled a terrorist and who should not.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by paiktis22
We support human rights.

Then why is there support for the PKK and other Kurdish terrorist organizations in Greece?

They deserve their own country.

Arrogant presumption on your part which is totally motivated by Greece's own interest in seeing Turkey weakened.

[Bereta_Eder]

1.Because they fight for their human rights. Edit: And we are well within EU definitions on that issue.

2.This does not cancel anything. 20 million of people being butchered by a military regime deserve their freedom and their country nevertheless.

So the question is why YOU don't support them? An ally of yours is commiting attrocities. What's your answer?


BTW, Try answering what I've asked you in the previous post too.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by paiktis22
And also justify why you are propably the number one country -

We Are the number one country, paiktis. Pax Americana! Sorry. I just had to get that one in.

then expect other countries to take your word for who should be labeled a terrorist and who should not.

They don't have to take my word for it. A good definition of terrorism is "illegitimate force used against innocents for political purposes." If it meets that standard, it is terrorism.

1.Because they fight for their human rights.

By denying other people thiers?

2.This is secondary. 20 million of people being butchered by a military regime desreve their freedom and their country nevertheless

The general reaction among the Greek populace to the NATO actions in Kosovo give lie to this statement.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


We Are the number one country, paiktis. Pax Americana! Sorry. I just had to get that one in.

Hehe, I guess It's ok But it is actaully american oppression which has led to much suffering.

They don't have to take my word for it. A good definition of terrorism is "illegitimate force used against innocents for political purposes." If it meets that standard, it is terrorism.

Then the US is the #1 rogue state. Because it has supported regimes and groups which have done exactly that.

By denying other people thiers?

You seem to be indeed confused.

The general reaction among the Greek populace to the NATO actions in Kosovo give lie to this statement.

Of course. Because the bombing was not necessairy except of the US wish to continue to «hold Europe by the balls».

[OneFootInTheGrave]

A few more comments

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1796000/1796034.stm

it is not only the evil axis which did not like the comments

[OneFootInTheGrave]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1798000/1798132.stm

and an addition... US to fight alone if neccessary.. ugh he is determined to start a war it seems. I hope not.

[Seneca]

It's difficult to imagine only a few months ago, almost every nation was united in sympathy for America, and willing to offer every assistance - has any other world leader squandered so much goodwill so quickly?