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I would rather add Saudi Arabia and Pakistan to the list of "Evil Axis" than Irak and North Korea. Despite Saddam's viciousness, he is neither a fundamentalist nor a sponsor of Al-Qaeda, but more of a mobster. I see the fundamentalists as far more dangerous than a gangster could ever be.
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Originally posted by reds4ever
at the end of the day the speech was written for americans and as such was a success, but (and this is not a troll) does anyone think it may be at the back of his advisors minds to keep the fear and anger boiling in america as long a possible, and try to get re-elected on the back of how resolute he was in the face of terror?
It's an election year for a lot of seats in Congress. If it wasn't at the front of their minds, then they're idiots. Just Politics as usual.
But you're right, you have to consider the audience that his speech was targeted too.
But my point was he could have had the same impact but toned it down a bit for international consumption.
RAHIt's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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Why should I care about the reaction...it's as if Bush has Americans hyponotised that he can do no wrong. Hasn't worked with anyone else though.Originally posted by rah
Obviously you didn't check out the reaction in US papers. It was well received which makes it far from useless.
But then, what else can I expect from a moron.
RAH
Did you even see/read it?
Or are you just reacting based on sound bytes/comments or total ignorance?
Yes, I read it. Well..most of it. I kind of skipped the parts of "we're so wonderful because we got attacked" nonsense he needed to spill out.www.my-piano.blogspotComment
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The reaction is the whole point. That was the purpose of the speech. To get people lined up to support his initiatives. Are you learning anything at all in school or are you just boozing and whoring? You owe it to yourself to pay attention in classes.Originally posted by Boddington's
Why should I care about the reaction...it's as if Bush has Americans hyponotised that he can do no wrong. Hasn't worked with anyone else though.
Yes, I read it. Well..most of it. I kind of skipped the parts of "we're so wonderful because we got attacked" nonsense he needed to spill out.
And if you think americans are hyponotised that he can do no wrong, you are even more ignorant than my earlier stipulation.
I would appreciate it, if just once, you'd engage your brain before typing.
RAH
Oh, I forget, trolls don't think,just drink
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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We are on a crusade against the axis of evil to bring to infinite justice the evil doers.
hey, whatever gets it on for you
seriously, Bush's speech is two fold: preparing the US public and sending messages to other countries.
it is a unilaterist US government we have up there.
and this IS diplomacy. the speech was prepared. it IS the US policies it served.Comment
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Have you met Marcus? Do you know him? Have you talked to him? Have you sat next to him in class?Originally posted by faded glory
Moronic Troll
I didnt think so....
So stop making Stereotypes and assumptions to feed your anti-european Ego.
The Ignorance on this board is amazing.
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I have been unimpressed with Iran over the last couple of months. The democratic forces are starting to lose out, the judiciary is cracking down, and the intelligence forces are doing stupid sh!t, like being a waypoint for fleeing Taliban/Al Qaeda and giving arms to Hamas/Hezbollah when we were trying to be the most helpful.
"he is neither a fundamentalist nor a sponsor of Al-Qaeda"
The point was that any day, Iraq may have nuclear weapons, and already has other WOMD. This is a pitch to the head to send a message about that. If he continues to seek nukes, we'll destroy his regime.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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With friends like that....
Aye Mis Moneypenny. You took the words right out of my mouth
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Kindly stop stalking me, Mr. Bond.Originally posted by paiktis22
Aye Mis Moneypenny. You took the words right out of my mouth
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Mark , didn't you criticize the US for siding with dictatures and dangerous regimes ? so , they listened to your advice ! dammit ,you simply can't please sertain people.
so do you rather prefer good relations with that regime in Iran??? are you OK? you know that this will legitimize it . And that's bad.
Iraq : the dangerous thing is that Saddam has already shown that he has no restraints in using unconventional weapons .
generally , Mark , that was not right.
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Look, the man talks like he walked straight off the pages of a comic book. "Evil doers." "Infinite Justice." "Axis of evil." "Is our children learning?" (hmmm... forget that last one.) And, frankly, that's what a lot of people like about him. It's not his fault. It's the public's fault for not expecting more of the most powerful man on Earth."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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Yet another blunder by Bush... Well it just goes to show that he's learned nothing from this whole Afghanistan deal.
-Well take matters into your own hands: Leave.The Ignorance on this board is amazing.
-You mean someone will assassinate him in the meantime?Bush is not going back to the next State of the Union empty handed
-You do realize that Iran has a moderate elected president, right?We don't want warming relations with them. Like the Iranian people, we want to get rid of the Ayatollah and have a real democratic government for Iran.
-Think of it this way. What does he gain by calling them "evil"?Yeah, sure, Bush is to blame because the leader of NK is oppressive moron.
-If it's trolling to criticize Bush...Im just pointing out some people hate him no matter what he says. The trolling is pretty thinly vieled these days"The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
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oh sure ... elected . there was a great choice of candidates there . him and the suicidal bomber guyYou do realize that Iran has a moderate elected president, right?.
moderate ? so he's moderately undemocratic ? moderately fundamentalistic ? or should I say moderately "evil" ?Comment
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Hey, for Iran, that's progress
"The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
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those speeches are writeen well in advance by people much smarter than Bush. Bush doesn't ad lib his speeches.
I'm sure there is a reason they mentioned those countries in the State of union address...Comment
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