Who's the Greatest Satan?

[General Ludd]

So, taking history into account, which empire do you think has been the most ruthless, oppresive, domminant, imperialist, ect...

[Jon Miller]

Me

Jon Miller

[Seeker]

hmmm I thought you were talking Marlowe vs Biblical vs etc?

[faded glory]

If this poll is going to have an ounce of serouisness...people will vote Soviet Union. They were, without a doubt. The cruelest butchers who ever walked the earth on the list above.

Some 40 million ethnic peoples and there own, were killed during only 90 years of rule

[Bereta_Eder]

OHOHOHOHO! This is so tempting. soooooooo tempting!!! You're spoiling me Osweld

I choose two. Let your imagination run wild

[Seeker]

Spain. 1492-1860s, Spain's rule of the New World was a period of naked hypocrisy, rape, enslavement, injustice, and massacre in the name of God and undisguised avarice and bigotry.
It wasn't even efficient.

!Viva Bolivar!

[Imran Siddiqui]

If this poll is going to have an ounce of serouisness...people will vote Soviet Union. They were, without a doubt. The cruelest butchers who ever walked the earth on the list above.

Uh... no... the cruelest butchers on the list above are (without a doubt) the Mongols! At least the Soviets cared a little for the culture of the areas they conquered instead of razing it all to the ground.

[faded glory]

Whilst that is true. The Soveits by far were the worst. Soviet troops killed almost a million of there own troops during world war 2

In the early years of 41, 42, and 43 they would have 2 lines of defense. One was the official defense line. The other was so there own troops wouldnt retreat. When Stalin ordered you to not retreat . You had better not retreat

And many Russian soldiers will testify to what happened when people fell back, and were ordered to not retreat. They were mowed down bye the secondary lines.

Thats how evil the USSR was

[Dis]

I'm the first one to vote for the US

how about that

hey I'm just going by what I've been told

[Bereta_Eder]

Good boy

[Dominikos]

If this poll is going to have an ounce of serouisness...people will vote Soviet Union. They were, without a doubt. The cruelest butchers who ever walked the earth on the list above. Some 40 million ethnic peoples and there own, were killed during only 90 years of rule

I'm not sure as to whether anyone will agree with me on this, but I don't think that one can measure the cruelty of an empire by the amount of people killed under its domination. Cruelty is cruelty, and those who are subjected to it die the same. Perhaps more people may have been involved during the slaughters in the Soviet Union, but the cost of losing great numbers of people was just as devastating to the Jews or Native Americans (North and South) as it was to the people dominated under the Soviet Union.

Empires are cruel to those who refuse to bow to their policies and laws.

It is silly to measure cruelty based on the number of people killed.

If anyone agrees or disagrees, please let me know.

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~Emperor Dominik~

[Imran Siddiqui]

Thats how evil the USSR was

The Mongols were worse. They destroyed civilizations by raping and plunder. They were a nomadic people and didn't think much of cities it seems by what they did to those they captured.

[Dominikos]

That's right Imran, but the Mongols were later turned into city builders. China was greatly responsible for the Mongols being turned into builders of cities, after the collapse of the Sung dynasty in 1279.

Complete barbarism under the Mongols was not exactly the case. For example, the pax mongolica prevailing over an immense area facilitated the marked increase of foreign trade. This was, however, almost entirely in foreign hands, mostly those of Moslem merchants in central Asia.

It is also important to note that the Mongols were assimilated in many areas they conquered. This is especially true of the Middle East and China.

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~Emperor Dominik~

[Starchild]

I'll admit, the Soviets weren't sutble in their tactics.

Didn't the Mongols destroy the great library at Bagdad by throwing so many books into the river that the waters ran the colour of ink?

Or was this something I dreamt about and has no relation to reality in any way....

[Imran Siddiqui]

You dream thing and think they are real? NO!

Anyway, I don't know... have to research I guess if that was true.