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  • Suspected Israeli Spies Held by U.S.

    Two decades have passed since September 11, 2001, when a group of al Qaeda terrorists hijacked and crashed four planes, but the 9/11 attacks will never be forgotten.



    WASHINGTON — Some 60 Israelis, who federal investigators have said are part of a long-running effort to spy on American government officials, are among the hundreds of foreigners detained since the Sept. 11 terror attacks, Fox News has learned.


    The Israelis, a handful of whom are described as active Israeli military or intelligence operatives, have been detained on immigration charges or under the new Patriot Anti-Terrorism Law. Federal investigators said some of them failed polygraph questions inquiring about alleged surveillance activities against and in the United States.

    There is no indication the Israelis were involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, but investigators suspect that they may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance and not shared it.

    A highly placed investigator told Fox News there are "tie-ins," but when asked for details flatly refused to describe them. "Evidence linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified, I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It is classified information," the source said.

    An Israeli Embassy spokesman offered categorical denials, and said any suggestion of Israelis spying on or in the United States is simply not true.

    But Fox News has learned that one group of Israelis spotted in North Carolina recently is suspected of keeping an apartment in California to spy on a group of Arabs who the U.S. authorities are investigating for links to terrorism.

    Numerous classified documents obtained by Fox News indicate that even prior to Sept. 11, as many as 140 other Israelis had been detained or arrested in a secretive and sprawling investigation into suspected espionage by Israelis in the United States.

    Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a working group that has been compiling evidence in the case since the mid-1990s. These documents detail hundreds of incidents in cities and towns across the country that investigators say quote "may well be an organized intelligence-gathering activity."

    Investigators are focusing part of their efforts on Israelis who said they are art students from the University of Jerusalem or Bezalel Academy and repeatedly made contact with U.S. government personnel by saying they wanted to sell cheap art or handiwork.

    Documents say they "targeted" and penetrated military bases, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Federal Bureau of Investigations, dozens of government facilities and even secret offices and unlisted private homes of law enforcement and intelligence personnel.

    Another part of the investigation has resulted in the detention and arrest of dozens of Israelis working at kiosks in American malls, where they had been selling toys called "Puzzlecar" and "Zoomcopter."

    Investigators suspected a front. Shortly after the New York Times and Washington Post reported the detentions of Israelis on immigration charges last month, the carts began vanishing.

    Why would Israelis spy in and on the United States?

    A General Accounting Office investigation referred to Israel as Country A and said, "According to a U.S. intelligence agency, the government of country A conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the U.S. of any U.S. ally."

    A Defense Intelligence report said Israel has a "voracious appetite for information."

    "The Israelis are motivated by strong survival instincts which dictate every facet of their political and economic policies," the DIA report said. "It aggressively collects military and industrial technology and the U.S. is a high priority target.

    "Israel possesses the resources and technical capability to achieve its collection objectives," the document concludes.


    This is not going to end well.
    "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

  • #2
    I wouldn't believe the details without some confirmation, but it is no secret that Israel has been spying on the US for a good long while. And yes it goes beyond good-fences, good neighbors "snooping" that everyone does.
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    • #3
      Wonder if the Palestinians will be able to use this screw-up by the Mossad to thier advantage and get back some of the positive PR they lost.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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      • #4
        Another part of the investigation has resulted in the detention and arrest of dozens of Israelis working at kiosks in American malls, where they had been selling toys called "Puzzlecar" and "Zoomcopter."


        I see that the ZOG plan of selling toys that will brainwash American children was finally approved.
        "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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        • #5
          The very fact that there were "positive" polygraph tests leads me to believe that these people AREN'T spies. A polygraph can't tell if you're lying. It can only tell if you're nervous. I'd sure as hell be nervous if the government picked me up while investigating one of the most horrific crimes in history. Unless, of course, I was trained to handle the government... nervous people generally don't become spies.
          "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Eli
            Another part of the investigation has resulted in the detention and arrest of dozens of Israelis working at kiosks in American malls, where they had been selling toys called "Puzzlecar" and "Zoomcopter."
            Could someone explain what that particular quote MEANS to me. I'm pretty tired right now, but I can't seem to figure how a toy called a "puzzle car" could be deemed suspicious.
            A witty quote proves nothing. - Voltaire

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            • #7
              Yeah. I was also a bit puzzled.
              "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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              • #8
                Investigators suspected a front. Shortly after the New York Times and Washington Post reported the detentions of Israelis on immigration charges last month, the carts began vanishing
                Does this help.
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                • #9
                  Good grief!?! What if it's true, and the Israelis knew and didn't say anything?
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc
                    Wonder if the Palestinians will be able to use this screw-up by the Mossad to thier advantage and get back some of the positive PR they lost.
                    ... I can see it now ... " .... The Palestinian Authority has pledged it's full support to the US authority in the capturing and apprehension of suspected Israeli spies ... "


                    on a more serious note :

                    did the Israelis spy on arabs or on US personell ? they mention both in the text . for the first one : what's the problem ?
                    for the second one : .... " daddy will be very angry about me spying on him masturbating in the bathroom" ....
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #11
                      BAH! Everybody spies on the US

                      Most european countries (and Russia) and others do it.

                      Even we do it

                      (and they caught our best man some years ago damn it )

                      He was sending to Greece top secret info about the US assessment of Turkey's military. See with him we didn't have to spy on Turkey, the americans did all the work for us

                      BTW IF they gave us that info in the first hand WE WOULDN"T HAVE TO SPY

                      Thing is the americans propably knew about him for a while ebcause they caught him right after we caught two CIA agents hunting for terrorists (and who knows what else ) in Greece. (but he got 14 years in Attica while the CIA agents walked (diplomatic immunity although it was a GRAVE violation of sovereignity )

                      Don't you just LOOOOVE undercover jobs
                      Last edited by Bereta_Eder; December 13, 2001, 19:32.

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                      • #12
                        I'm assuming, from the context of the article, that these guys were spying on the terrorists and got swept up with them. The article doesn't say that, but it makes sense.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #13
                          Hopefully we lock those ****ers in prison and throw away the key.
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                          • #14
                            The Mossad beat in espionage? I think hell has just frozen over.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ramo
                              The Mossad beat in espionage? I think hell has just frozen over.

                              Yup. What's next? Intelligent life on earth?

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