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The sceptics grasp onto the "faked theroy", because all they have said for three months has been dead worg (Hi Mark G or L, it's the same ), so they hope to regain a shread of credibility.
To late boys, that egg on your faces just keeps getting more rotten.
I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG
This sounds like it smells bad, Chris. (Who enjoys making jokes about spelling)
that egg on your faces just keeps getting more rotten.
So does this.
Spme posters are really stinking up the place!
Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
Japher: "crap, did I just post in this thread?"
"Bloody hell, Lefty.....number one in my list of persons I have no intention of annoying, ever." Bugs ****ing Bunny
From a 6th grader who readily adpated to internet culture: "Pay attention now, because your opinions suck"
An anarchist buddy of mine was sitting with a friend of his who speaks Arabic. They watched the video on TV. According to my friend, his friend said the translation was accurate.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
For any skeptics, just watch OBL's hands closely as he is verbally describing the impact and collapse of the building(s). His hand movements match his verbal description...
Just a technical point of interest comment here.... For those that do not see how the audio could have been translated due to poor or almost inaudible sound, you would be amazed by the sophistication of some of the audio systems used to reproduce or decipher sound.
Technology is amazing these days. I trust the translation to be correct.
I also do not think the US Gov't released this tape to be seen as the end all evidence. It is clear , we are following our agenda, even before this tape was come upon.
It is more likely released to try to keep the emotion flowing in their favor. Seems a relatively usefull tactic if one was to continue down this path. And it is clear that the US is going to continue this route.
My personal opinion..... I didn't need the tape to form a judgement. I had already formed one based mainly on the media information of the UK and US. And I do not believe that the total of all media from these two countries are lying or in some sort of fantastic conspiracy.
Without questioning the validity of the tapes per se, does anybody know any more about how it was found? "It was found in an abandoned house in Jalalabad" just seems beyond belief; you're conducting house-to-house searches in a place as big as Jalalabad, and you happen to grab this one videotape? I mean, did they know whose house it was? Did they just grab all videos they found, and sort them out later? ("Anything yet, Jim?" "No, but here's another Pamela/Tommy Lee for the pile.") Did it magically glisten like an object you're supposed to add to your inventory in a badly designed adventure game? Anybody have a sense of this?
"I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin
Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Without questioning the validity of the tapes per se, does anybody know any more about how it was found? "It was found in an abandoned house in Jalalabad" just seems beyond belief; you're conducting house-to-house searches in a place as big as Jalalabad, and you happen to grab this one videotape? I mean, did they know whose house it was? Did they just grab all videos they found, and sort them out later? ("Anything yet, Jim?" "No, but here's another Pamela/Tommy Lee for the pile.") Did it magically glisten like an object you're supposed to add to your inventory in a badly designed adventure game? Anybody have a sense of this?
Scene, Jalalabad 12 hours after NA troops entered the town.
US Special Forces Intel Guy to NA buddy:
"Ask them (locals) if they have seen any Arabs recently."
Northern Alliance Guy:
"Not for several weeks, but there were some staying in a house near here then.
Spec. Forces Guy
"Where is this house?"
........................
There seems to be some confusion regarding the words Evidence and Proof in a legal context. For all of you for whom English is not your first language (and Osweld):
Evidence refers to something put before a court in order to establish proof of a case. There are rules as to what sorts of things can be put before a court. Statements made by a defendent are not only legal evidence in the vast majority of cases, they are considered strong evidence, especially when the statement was made without any obvious coercion.
For Proof lets take a look at what the Merriam Webster Dictionary says:
"the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact "
In a legal sense proof (either a proponderance of evidence in a civil matter or beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal matter) is required for the party bringing the suit or charge can prevail at a trial.
Thus the video tape is indeed evidence which defense lawyers could try to supress if they can prove it was phony, and would almost certainly try to cast doubt upon if it was presented at trial. For some it would constitute proof alone, but I don't doubt that if OBL is ever brought to trial there will be much more to bolster it.
He's got the Midas touch.
But he touched it too much!
Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!
so did the video provice a new meaningfull info on the attack or did obl mention anything that only the organizer of the attack would know?
if not, then i guess that if i take a camera and make a video of paiktis taking credit for the attack and describing joyfully how he heard about it on the news, the US will bomb athens tomorrow morning
Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
Originally posted by MarkG
if not, then i guess that if i take a camera and make a video of paiktis taking credit for the attack and describing joyfully how he heard about it on the news, the US will bomb athens tomorrow morning
Was Paikis implecated in previous terror attacks?
Has he sworn to kill all non-believers?
Does he run camps in Afghanistan training terrorists?
Does your post have any valid points, or is it a silly troll?
Lefty, you made a spelling error in your post pointing out my spelling error!
--->"Spme posters are really stinking up the place! "
I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG
obl mention anything that only the organizer of the attack would know?
Just from the part I heard about:
1. OBL says he knew the exact day the attack would take place five days ahead of time.
2. OBL says that some of terrorists did not know the nature of trhe mission until just before they boarded the planes.
Why did the hijackers leave behind evidence in a car? Because people make mistakes. Read any "Stupid Crooks" item for example.
Why did OBL allow such a tape to be made? Because he felt relatively secure, and thought it was for the personal use of the interviewer.
For those who doubt OBL's involvement, can you cite any shread of evidence, however dubious, to support any alternative hypothesis? I recognize that most, if not all, the effort has been directed at OBL, but surely there must be some scrap of evidence or half credible theory to support your position. Otherwise I dont see why your arguments should be taken seriously.
Old posters never die.
They j.u.s.t..f..a..d..e...a...w...a...y....
), so they hope to regain a shread of credibility.
I mean, did they know whose house it was? Did they just grab all videos they found, and sort them out later? ("Anything yet, Jim?" "No, but here's another Pamela/Tommy Lee for the pile.") Did it magically glisten like an object you're supposed to add to your inventory in a badly designed adventure game? Anybody have a sense of this?
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