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  • #16
    Originally posted by Mark L


    You are talking about your own people giani. Are you saying you don't deserve any rights as well?
    I was talking about fags. Not the Spanish People

    Since when are liberals for isolation? That is definatly a conservative goal.
    Isolation is not a conservative goal, it is now on the side of the "liberals". True Liberalism is free markets, but the "liberals" today like you propose against that. Liberal means free, therefore you don't fit that description I do. The "liberals" of today mean immense taxes and other crap.

    Then join the armed forces. You're not freedom fighter! Snap out of it kid.
    I am thinking about that.

    So have right-wing Nazis and Juntas. Point is?
    Not all leftists were fluffy teddy bears as you describe.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #17
      "Now I am asking for a sensible apology."

      -So people should apologize for their opinions? When did you become PC?

      "Not true. Leftists communists have had the history of murdering large parts of their population. Like Stalin and Mao. Don't tell me they aren't true communists, in my view they are. I am a freedom fighter fighting for the best of the civilized world."

      -More like wannabe Hitler.

      "The liberals would of destroyed four hundred times more civil liberties like the right to carry guns. "

      -That's not a right.

      "Anyways, he didn't destroy the budget surplus, the recession did. His tax cut provided relief for average middle class people who had their backs broken by immense taxes enacted by the Clinton regime."

      -Do you even read the **** you post before you post it?
      "The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists."
      -Joan Robinson

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      • #18
        Originally posted by red_jon
        Umm, how did you equate that to Communism? Labour are not communist. The Liberals are not communists, just like the conservatives aren't fascists. How do you manage to link things to the extreme?
        Alright, with that settled everything is settled. Many here were going after conservatives because they accuse them of being nazis for showing opposition to gay rights for example and to abortion. Just because they have that opposition do not make up false crap about them and let them be. They will like-wise let you be.

        Why? (And why did you use the word they )?
        Because they is a word that fits a group. I like using simple english. Other words:

        Them, They, etc. Those words describe a group.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #19
          I was talking about fags. Not the Spanish People
          Are you that stupid or just acting like you are?

          Let me spell it out for you.

          1. It's well known that you are gay.
          2. You say gays don't deserve rights.
          3. Therefor: You don't deserve rights either.

          Do you understand it now?
          Quod Me Nutrit Me Destruit

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          • #20
            You hit this one on the nail:

            Does this sound familiar:

            Before the gulf war:

            Iraq has the world's 4th largerst military....They beat Iran....Amercans aren't used to fighting in the desert....The Army has ordered 25,000 bodybags....If Iraq attacks Israel it will cause WWIII....We won't be able to win in their home territory....Its a quagmire....IT WILL BE ANOTHER VIETNAM


            Fast forward to Milosevec:

            They've been fighting like that for 500 years....We will need a significant number of ground troops....This could lead to war in Europe....We on't be able to win by bombing....Its a quagmire....IT WILL BE ANOTHER VIETNAM


            Fast forward to Afghanistan:

            They beat the English....They beat the Soviets....It will ignite the entire Muslim world against us and lead to WWIII....We will not be able to penetrate thier caves...We will need 50,000 ground troops...Its a quagmire....IT WILL BE ANOTHER VIETNAM.


            Whoever we have to use military force against next:

            There will be comments about our inability fight on that foreign soil....There will be the list of foes that were beaten by whoever we have to engage....There will be predictions of high casualties and enormous amounts of groundtroops....There will be the prediction of WWIII....It will be a quagmire....IT WILL BE ANOTHER VIETNAM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mark L


              Are you that stupid or just acting like you are?

              Let me spell it out for you.

              1. It's well known that you are gay.
              2. You say gays don't deserve rights.
              3. Therefor: You don't deserve rights either.

              Do you understand it now?
              1. No
              2. Yes
              3. No, I am not a ***, I am Spanish and have rights.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #22
                I can't be arsed to get into this again so let's play along.

                Giancarlo, why do you hate gay people?

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                • #23
                  To threadjack back on topic:

                  It should be fairly easy to go back and see who said what .
                  http://www.hardware-wiki.com - A wiki about computers, with focus on Linux support.

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                  • #24
                    Zykla (or whatever), oh you're soo brave. Sitting infront of a screen miles away from any war or the people you're calling wimps. You're sp brave.

                    Loser.

                    Besides, do you know anything about the vietnam war? Probably not. What have the war accompliced? It has removed one regime and replaced it with another.

                    Will it be democratic and promote peace and stability?
                    I wouldn't beat on it.

                    Will this mean anything really?
                    No.

                    Will people that hate the west and the US change their mind?
                    No.

                    Is this doing anything about the reasons for international terrorism? No

                    Just heard that 40 professors that's not patriotic enough have been blacklisted in the US. making the world safe for democracy...

                    Nietzche once said something like "when figthing against beasts you'll have to be careful not turning into one yourself.". hypocricy.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by red_jon
                      I can't be arsed to get into this again so let's play along.

                      Giancarlo, why do you hate gay people?
                      Because their gay.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Giancarlo


                        Because their gay.
                        Why are people like you allowed to live?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by red_jon


                          Why are people like you allowed to live?
                          Why are people like you allowed to live?
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #28
                            Ah red_jon, just ignore him. We both really now he's so damn insecure and affraid that he has to look down on others to make it through the day.
                            We should really feel sad for him. he's only half a man.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Kropotkin
                              Ah red_jon, just ignore him. We both really now he's so damn insecure and affraid that he has to look down on others to make it through the day.
                              We should really feel sad for him. he's only half a man.
                              I am not looking down on anybody, it is the fact that you guys are.

                              Half a man? I like women. That is my statement before this Committee. (That is what it seems)
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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