For the defeatist wimps who said "it will be another Vietnam!"...

[Kropotkin]

the liberals - they are all anti-freedom.

Oh... look up the word in a dictionary.

[Saint Marcus]

I am thinking about that.

Thought you wanted to be a lawyer? What changed this time?

red_jon: why do you hate gay people?
Giancarlo: because they are gay
red_jon: Why are people like you allowed to live?
Giancarlo: Why are people like you allowed to live?

Is it me or does giani has the arguing skills of a two year old?

I'll change.

We've heard that before

but gay people here were harassing me.

I believe you were harrasing some (gay) people here, not the other way around.

There is only belief I have.

Which happends to be written down in Mein Kampf?

Shame on you redjon for being a hypocrit.

You say gays have no rights, and when red_jon get's rightly upset about it you say "shame on you"? What's wrong with this picture?

someone with a purpose

What's your purpose? Getting rid of all the gays? Making sure gays don't get any rights? Making them wear pink triangles for "their own protection"?

[Berzerker]

Kropotkin -

Oh... look up the word in a dictionary

I have, and it bears no resemblance to the ideology of modern day American liberals. I can't help it if anti-freedom leftists (oops, redundant) have hi-jacked the word.

[Saint Marcus]

Dutch liberals are still right-wing and pro-freedom. Also pro-euthanasia, pro-abortion, pro-drugslegalisation, pro gay-rights, pro-freemarket, pro-Europe, pro-internationalisation, etc.

A lot more pro-freedom in total than the american conservatives.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Mark L


Thought you wanted to be a lawyer? What changed this time?

I have my whole life ahead of me and a communist like you has no right to say what it will be.

red_jon: why do you hate gay people?
Giancarlo: because they are gay
red_jon: Why are people like you allowed to live?
Giancarlo: Why are people like you allowed to live?

Is it me or does giani has the arguing skills of a two year old?

I am just playing his own game, using inflammatory remarks towards the other view. If you think only one view is right go to North Korea.

I believe you were harrasing some (gay) people here, not the other way around.

Why suddenly out of the blue was accused of something so unethically disgusting? (What asher called me?)

Which happends to be written down in Mein Kampf?

And your beliefs are in Stalin's vison? Where the state can kill anybody and send them off to prison. Just because they are conservative. I really don't know you actually, so I don't care.

You say gays have no rights, and when red_jon get's rightly upset about it you say "shame on you"? What's wrong with this picture?

I interacted because he said conservatives deserve no part in anything. That in my eyes, is violation of my freedom of speech.

What's your purpose? Getting rid of all the gays? Making sure gays don't get any rights? Making them wear pink triangles for "their own protection"?

No I do not advocate murder. I don't like what they do though and I think it is disgusting.

[red_jon]

Well, what a surprise - Giancarlo is playing the poor, outspoken, harrassed drama queen again.


I'm not going to get into another of his pathetic arguments - most people know the truth about his sexuality (and his harrassment of prominent posters).

I didn't say conservatives deserve no part in anything - you, Giancarlo are not a conservative. Conservatives feel they have a reason or denying homosexuals rights. You simply hate gay people because of your own insecurities, your political views arising from your own sense of self-loathing.

See a shrink, get help, whatever - just don't shove you pathetic psychological problems in other peoples faces.

Oh, and I'm sure most gay people find you disgusting (I sure do). Come to think of it, most straight people probably feel the same way.

[Az]

that "Article" about the BBC's attitude is


Giancarlo ,you don't cease to amaze me . you go like :

you :- I hate gays , gays don't deserve to live .

a normal person : Giancarlo , that's not nice , you've only talked about how "it's OK to be gay" , and now you're all homophobic again...


you : oh , I am so sorry ...

I feel like bashing you , but I also feel sorry for you being ... well , if I'll continue I'll be bashing you...

I think you should live this forum. NOTICE : I am , of course , not commanding you to do this, but I think it would be better for all of us , you especially.

and if you are gay ( no matter what you say ) , you should simply be ashamed of yourself. You should simply stop doing this. I am not going to tell anything else , if you have moral values , you know that you are wrong . If you don't , well ... OK then , do whatever you want.

Date smart beautiful women that will love you , if you want to do it.
Date intelligent handsome men that will love you , if you want to do it .

I am no character judge , meerly a regular human being , but I can see that you cannot find inner peace on a very basic level.

I wish you the best of luck .

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by red_jon
Well, what a surprise - Giancarlo is playing the poor, outspoken, harrassed drama queen again.

Rightfully.

I'm not going to get into another of his pathetic arguments - most people know the truth about his sexuality (and his harrassment of prominent posters).

Oh really? How?

I didn't say conservatives deserve no part in anything - you, Giancarlo are not a conservative.

I am a conservative, you stalinist.

Conservatives feel they have a reason or denying homosexuals rights. You simply hate gay people because of your own insecurities,

No, I do not, I am secure about being straight because I like women. Simple.

See a shrink, get help, whatever - just don't shove you pathetic psychological problems in other peoples faces.

You should too... because you have enormous complusions to put your failures on other people.

Oh, and I'm sure most gay people find you disgusting (I sure do). Come to think of it, most straight people probably feel the same way.

Gay people are disgusting in what they do, no wonder why they only live up to 39 on the average. I stand firm in my beliefs.

Dalgetti, I frankly don't care, if you wish to continue with this false propaganda than go ahead. You don't know me. Nobody knows who I am.

[Saint Marcus]

So funny how this thread is dealing about giani's homosexuality again

I have my whole life ahead of me and a communist like you has no right to say what it will be.

Let me get this straight. In the past 6 months, you wanted to become:

Diplomat
CIA agent
Lawyer
Secretary of State
State attorney
Soldier
...

Am I missing anything? It's just funny how you always change your goals and dreams

I am just playing his own game, using inflammatory remarks towards the other view.

You are doing something else, because you are saying a certain portion of the population don't deserve any rights. And then you find it surprising that people from that particular group react to that?

Why suddenly out of the blue was accused of something so unethically disgusting?

Out of the blue? This has been going on for months, after you started harrasing people here and on another forum. Everyone here knows you are gay. Everyone here knows you were flirting with red_jon. Everyone here knows you sent nude pics of yourself and your "boyfriend" out. This isn't some accusation out of the blue made by one single unknown poster, but in fact something that quite a number of people here testified too, and respected names at that.

I really don't know you actually, so I don't care.

Thank God for small favors

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Mark L
So funny how this thread is dealing about giani's homosexuality again

It shouldn't be. Because I am no ****ing demented ***.

Let me get this straight. In the past 6 months, you wanted to become:

Diplomat
CIA agent
Lawyer
Secretary of State
State attorney
Soldier
...

Am I missing anything? It's just funny how you always change your goals and dreams

Ambition is good. Wanting to be one thing is not. Diplomat? No I never said that. CIA Agent? Yeah maybe. A Lawyer and State Attorney are basically the same thing.. I don't want to defend people only prosecute them in court of law. A solider? Yeah, I am thinking about that too. Secretary of State is too far fetched.

You are doing something else, because you are saying a certain portion of the population don't deserve any rights. And then you find it surprising that people from that particular group react to that?

What if I say I don't care about homosexuals and just care about myself and the next time I can get myself a girlfriend.

Out of the blue? This has been going on for months, after you started harrasing people here and on another forum. Everyone here knows you are gay.

No I haven't. On another forum? I haven't been to any other forums like this one. The only other one is a geopolitical forum, the frontier.

Everyone here knows you were flirting with red_jon.

No.

Everyone here knows you sent nude pics of yourself and your "boyfriend" out.

No.

This isn't some accusation out of the blue made by one single unknown poster, but in fact something that quite a number of people here testified too,

No.

and respected names at that.

No.

[Deity Dude]

Maybe someone should start a thread about the sexual preferences of Apolytoners, then we could discuss how America is doing in Afghanistan.

[9 ECAC Titles]

The correct analogy was never Vietnam (if people did maintain that then they were wrong). If was either of two things:

(1) It will be another Phillipines. Project force a great distance, clean out the occupiers, then doublecross the population and foist a useless government on them, eventually clear out and allow a murderous autocracy to lock down the country for 25 years as long as they serve our interests.

or

(2) It will be another Afghanistan (with us reprising the Brit and Russian role). Get nowhere, waste blood and treasure, pull out ignominiously.

Both were fair calls before the bombings started. (2) didn't happen, thankfully. Now we have to be intelligent enough not to let (1) happen.

BTW, it's a well accepted psychological pricniple that those who are most aggressively homophobic are suppressing their own desires.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Deity Dude
Maybe someone should start a thread about the sexual preferences of Apolytoners, then we could discuss how America is doing in Afghanistan.

I just did.

[KrazyHorse]

Bump. Sorry, but Zylka thought this was gone.

[Urban Ranger]

It would have been another vietnam if the US had sent in ground troops.

It seems that Afghanistan is heading for yet more civil war though. A couple of warlords have already decried the provisional government.

Even if bin Laden is killed it doesn't stop terrorism as long as the US doesn't change its foreign policies.