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  • #151
    Originally posted by Giancarlo
    The paper won't fly out of my pocket, and it is all numbers.
    All numbers? Is that very smart?
    There are 10 digits. It's much better to have all letters (in random order), or best to have a combination of both.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #152
      Originally posted by Asher

      All numbers? Is that very smart?
      There are 10 digits. It's much better to have all letters (in random order), or best to have a combination of both.
      They are random numbers. Contact me on ICQ, I swear it is secure, with the security I have now.

      Back to evolution versus creation now....
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #153
        Originally posted by Giancarlo
        They are random numbers. Contact me on ICQ, I swear it is secure, with the security I have now.
        Random numbers is still 10 possible numbers. Random characters means 26 possible characters. Combination of them both means you can have 36 possible letters per space. Which is more secure?
        10 or 36?

        And I would contact you on ICQ, but we tried that and it didn't work out very well.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #154
          There must be a law which says something like the following: failed theories (like Creationism) continue to exist because, while they rant continually against good evidentiary theories (like Evolution), the majority of those who hold the good theory don't even bother with the failed theory.

          (BTW, I've heard pretty damning evidence about the Earth rotating once a day -- seems we'd all fall off.

          Take some Science, kid. Fiat lux.

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          • #155
            Originally posted by Mark L
            Many scientists are backing away from the String theory now. Apparantly it wasn't as good as they hoped it would be, so they are busily working on a replacement.
            Try telling that to Ed Witten! String theory is very much alive and kicking! I am thinking about doing a little research that way myself next year.

            It has been somewhat superceeded by a 'higher' theory called M-Theory in which the string theory is embedded but there are lots of people still working on strings.

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            • #156
              Well, what would life be life without peers

              God created us 10 minutes ago in a game of SDTWQERTSDA (god language for sim-WECXGASDRE (the god world) and is now hacking the code to do a population growth and technology cheat.

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              • #157
                Originally posted by Rogan Josh
                But if that were true, then all men would have 14 inch penises by now
                Surely?

                Penis size has very little to do with the survival of a species, though Genetically I am more incline to believe women pick their mates based on things such as health, strength, speed, intelligence, and similar factors.
                (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                • #158
                  Originally posted by Rogan Josh
                  Newtonian mechanics will give wrong predictions of physics at high speeds. It is wrong for describing this, but is a reasonable approximation to reality for low speeds. Likewise GR will give wrong predictions for small distance effects. It is wrong for describing this, but is a reasonable approximation at large distances scales.
                  So we both agreed that theories are just approximations of nature, and they'll be progressively refined. Therefore, more descriptive theories - ones that can explain nature better, will replace older, less accurate ones.

                  IIRC though Newtonian physics was accurately enough at the turn of last century. No observations of physics at extreme speeds, enormous pressure, or infinitesimal distances were made - or even possible then.

                  Originally posted by Rogan Josh
                  This is evidence for microevolution - not the evolution of man.
                  Not direct evidence of speciation, but it clearly shows natural selection at work.When we don't have direct evidence of something, we look for indirect ones. Fossils of transitional species, for example, are very strong evidence for evolution and very strong evidence against creationism.

                  Originally posted by Rogan Josh
                  The best tested theory we have is Quantum ElectroDynamics. This is an interesting point though. There are certainly different standards in different branches of science as to what constitutes 'well supported'.
                  Mathematics doesn't work very well with evolution Statistics and such are used to as tools for data collection and analysis, not for direct derivation.

                  Originally posted by Rogan Josh
                  I agree. Creationism isn't a nice theory from a scientific point of view (I certainly don't believe in it), because it is not predictive. But non-predictivity does not preclude something from being true. For example, look at the quantum mechanics. There are many interpretations of QM, two of which are The Copenhagen Interpretation and Everett's Many Worlds Interpretation. There is no experiment we can do to prove of disprove either of them, but that doesn't mean they are wrong.
                  Some scientists are eager to point out that philosophical interpretations shouldn't be imposed on scientific theories

                  Originally posted by Rogan Josh
                  Also, although creation cannot be proven wrong - it could be proven right. God could descend with His Host of Angles tomorrow morning, and then we would all know for sure.
                  Then I'd in deep trouble
                  (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                  (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                  (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                  • #159
                    Creationism have less evidence than macroevolution.

                    Since no micro-creation has yet been seen.

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                    • #160
                      SR? GR? English, please!
                      Since no micro-creation has yet been seen.

                      God created us 10 minutes ago in a game of SDTWQERTSDA (god language for sim-WECXGASDRE (the god world) and is now hacking the code to do a population growth and technology cheat.
                      I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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                      • #161
                        I stated earlier ; I dont believe in Creation or Evolution. You fools who claim to know it all are wrong. They will prove both of these theorys bogus!

                        Wait a few years when the Scientific community gets there head outta there arse.....


                        Evolution- they cant make up there mind how old the earth is! When I was in school they said the earth was only 2 billion years old!

                        Now thats been pushed back


                        As well as everything to do with evolution.

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                        • #162
                          "When I was in school they said the earth was only 2 billion years old! "

                          You must be older than I thought...the 4 billion year age must be some 30 years old by now.

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                          • #163
                            Faded, I think you are confusing the age of the Earth and the time that it has been estimated life was presennt on Earth.
                            Rome rules

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                            • #164
                              Originally posted by MORON
                              Creationism have less evidence than macroevolution.

                              Since no micro-creation has yet been seen.
                              Funnily enough, this highlights one of the problems I have with evolution (although I stress that I still believe it is a better theory than creation).

                              We have never observed a creation of life event which was necessary in the primordial soup to set off evolution in the first place. Presumably it would have to be rather common-place since the chance of one tiny single celled organism turning into life on Earth without being killed off must be fairly high. There are always anthropic principles to fall back on I suppose....

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                              • #165
                                Originally posted by faded glory
                                I stated earlier ; I dont believe in Creation or Evolution. You fools who claim to know it all are wrong. They will prove both of these theorys bogus!

                                Wait a few years when the Scientific community gets there head outta there arse.....


                                Evolution- they cant make up there mind how old the earth is! When I was in school they said the earth was only 2 billion years old!

                                Now thats been pushed back


                                As well as everything to do with evolution.
                                ]

                                Then what theory will they use? Evolution is obviously the one supported by facts, and you cannot disprove it.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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