We were right. Cuz' i said so. There.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
So now Saddam had WMD, but it was still a bad reason, is that it?

"Now"?

I've always said this: that he likely had some very small amounts left over, that the effectiveness of these remains was laughable, and that he thus posed little or no threat.

I haven't changed my stance once on this issue, NYE. Try and drudge up stuff from 2002 on these same boards and you'll see me saying the same thing.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
No, he says that he was the guy who told the Brits about it, whether he was right or wrong. Did Blair invent him? Try to keep up.

Did the guy on MD public access TV make up the security camera footage released by the Pentagon which read Sept. 12 2001 (instead of Sept. 11)?

Either Blair is as stupid as that dude or he knowingly repeated something he knew to be untrue because it suited him.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Can you show me ones that said Saddam had none? I didn't think so.

The French was quite set against an invasion, and so was Russia. Thus, it can be logically concluded that their intelligence agencies didn't think much about Saddam's alleged BCN weapons and programmes.

Originally posted by notyoueither
I think the money motive is a farily bad one to draw, given the complicity of the foes of the action in getting money, personally, from continuing the staus quo.

Ah, I see, W was upset that the French was getting money from Iraq and he wasn't.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I think it's pretty stupid to be guilty of having used chemical weapons, then pretend to have chemical weapons, then act as if you are hiding chemical weapons (or worse) when the US military is staring at you from the business end of the most sophisticated weapons systems the world has ever seen.

Again, as I said, Saddam eventually let the UN weapons inspectors went where they wanted to go. So I don't see where you got that from.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


Did the guy on MD public access TV make up the security camera footage released by the Pentagon which read Sept. 12 2001 (instead of Sept. 11)?

Either Blair is as stupid as that dude or he knowingly repeated something he knew to be untrue because it suited him.

Except Blair isn't alone. He gets advice from people who should know what they are talking about, who in turn get advice from people who should be experts, like David Kelly.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


The French was quite set against an invasion, and so was Russia. Thus, it can be logically concluded that their intelligence agencies didn't think much about Saddam's alleged BCN weapons and programmes.

Logical to conclude? Come back when you have facts and not conjecture, please.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Actually, Krazy, there were Iraqi officers saying that Saddam had the ****ing things, but of course Bush and Blair should have listened to you, yes?

You meant the defectors? You believe the defectors on this issue?

Defectors are a problematic source because they tend to say what the other side (i.e. the side they defected to) want to hear.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


You meant the defectors? You believe the defectors on this issue?

Defectors are a problematic source because they tend to say what the other side (i.e. the side they defected to) want to hear.

No, I mean a serving Iraqi officer. Read the piece, if you can.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Logical to conclude? Come back when you have facts and not conjecture, please.

This is so funny NYE.

Where's the evidence that Iraq had BCN weapons?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
The French was quite set against an invasion, and so was Russia. Thus, it can be logically concluded that their intelligence agencies didn't think much about Saddam's alleged BCN weapons and programmes.

Interesting. Can we also infer from China and Russia's reluctance for the UNSC to take substantive action wrt Sudan that believe genocide is taking place? Nevermind China is the largest investor in Sudan's oil industry and Russia sells weapons and military equipment to Khartoum.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


This is so funny NYE.

Where's the evidence that Iraq had BCN weapons?

Very slick. The point is what the 'experts' were telling Bush and Blair then, isn't it?

Of course they were wrong, now. What did everyone think two years ago? Not the same as today, yes?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
No, I mean a serving Iraqi officer. Read the piece, if you can.

An ex-Iraqi officer.

[notyoueither]

Serving at the time, thank you very much.

[notyoueither]

Incidently, they are all ex officers now. That's what happens when the army gets disbanded. Duh!

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
What did everyone think two years ago? Not the same as today, yes?

I don't know abot you, NYE, my position hasn't changed from those pre-invasion days. I didn't believe that Saddam had any BCN weapons or the ability to develop them.