The Cylons are coming!

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Cylons are now using Victoria's Secret models as spys.

And if you've seen her nude shots, you'd get a boner the size of the Empire State Building. She's incredibly hot!

[GePap]

I like the president- it is easy to believe that all she would be is a secretary of education until forced into the position- at the same time she minces few words, and gets her way without being shrill or masculine, ismply because she knows she is right, knows what has to be done, and expectsit done, and people see that and do it.

Of course there are alwasy some basic little things that baffle, likewhy the galactica itself seems to have no real built in missile defenses, when it would seem like an obvious need- but the show is written well enough to overcome those things.

Oh,and as for the search of a mythical earth, when do they mention that? it was not in the movie.

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by GePap
I like the president- it is easy to believe that all she would be is a secretary of education until forced into the position- at the same time she minces few words, and gets her way without being shrill or masculine, ismply because she knows she is right, knows what has to be done, and expectsit done, and people see that and do it.

I like the tension between her and Adama. There's a very good military vs civilian theme where Adama naturally wants to kick butt and the President wants to save as many refugees as possible and find a safe haven.

Of course there are alwasy some basic little things that baffle, likewhy the galactica itself seems to have no real built in missile defenses, when it would seem like an obvious need- but the show is written well enough to overcome those things.

In part 2, Galactica uses its gun turrets. I presume the gun turrets are a missile defense system.

Oh,and as for the search of a mythical earth, when do they mention that? it was not in the movie.

At the end of part 2, Adama says that he knows the location of Earth, that only a few military commanders were told the location so that it would stay a secret from the cylons. After the speech, the President challenges his claim and Adama admits it is just a legend but he explains that he told the crew about Earth to give them hope.

[Patroklos]

like the president- it is easy to believe that all she would be is a secretary of education until forced into the position- at the same time she minces few words, and gets her way without being shrill or masculine, ismply because she knows she is right, knows what has to be done, and expectsit done, and people see that and do it.

I haven't seen her make a good decision yet. She seems like a Golden Phesant snob who doesn't realize she is now an obsolete relic who has no knowledge or expertise about anything she is talking about. Hope they throw her into an airlock eventually.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by GePap
Oh,and as for the search of a mythical earth, when do they mention that? it was not in the movie.

Huh? It's all over the last 5-10 minutes of the movie. The commander gives the speech to the crew at the funeral of the fallen and claims he knows where it is because it is a government-kept secret and that's where they will go.

Later, the president privately confronts commander and says he must be lying about Earth, because even the former president, who knew everything, doubted Earth's existence and thought it was just a myth. The commander admits he made it up to give hope to his crew.

Now, the big hole here is that there's no reason the Secretary of Education would really know any deeply-held government secret.

In fact, I'm not sure I like the mentioning of Earth at all. I know it's the same in the original series, but it to me it is effecting the realism of the show (oddly enough).

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Patroklos
I haven't seen her make a good decision yet. She seems like a Golden Phesant snob who doesn't realize she is now an obsolete relic who has no knowledge or expertise about anything she is talking about. Hope they throw her into an airlock eventually.

How about the decision to leave the ships that didn't have lightspeed? That was pretty clearly a good decision, considering what happened.

On top of that, it was her decision to hunt for survivors in the first place instead of following Adama's orders to regroup. Right decision? Yep.

And it was her call to run instead of "counterattacking" the Cylons, which would just have been retarded. Right decision? Yep.

Which decision was wrong?

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs


They do mention the colony names but really only to tell what had been hit or to ask if they had.

I know, but every time they mention them I flashback to the first version and the fluffy-haired pansies :shudders:. Hopefully, it will be a rare occurance on the series.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Locutus


And that's just the mini. I think in the series so far a colony name has been mentioned only once or twice (just as background info, nothing remotely relevant to the plot).

Thank Crom!

[MikeH]

I haven't seen the show and I'm not sure about the concept of this hot cylon spy.

Can we have more pictures so I can make up my mind?

[Patroklos]

How about the decision to leave the ships that didn't have lightspeed? That was pretty clearly a good decision, considering what happened.

Watch that scene again and tell me who made the right decision

On top of that, it was her decision to hunt for survivors in the first place instead of following Adama's orders to regroup. Right decision? Yep.

So the president has a little more wit than a whiny 2nd LT fighter pilot. Excellent bar. She picked porkchops of Lo Mein for lunch too. She get props for that too?

And it was her call to run instead of "counterattacking" the Cylons, which would just have been retarded. Right decision? Yep.

Because we know there Earth does exist it seems like the right decison. As far as they are concerned, what they have really done is take a few thousand people out into deep space to starve/suffocate to death. Oh yeah, and since we know what the state of Earth is at the moment (remember BSG is present day), thanks for leading the Cylon fleet here too ass holes. I would take laying a world of hurt on a few Cylons over that anyday.

[SpencerH]

IIRC they said that earth was the first colony. That being the case, how come the 12 colonies are so advanced relative to us?

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Because we know there Earth does exist it seems like the right decison. As far as they are concerned, what they have really done is take a few thousand people out into deep space to starve/suffocate to death. Oh yeah, and since we know what the state of Earth is at the moment (remember BSG is present day), thanks for leading the Cylon fleet here too ass holes. I would take laying a world of hurt on a few Cylons over that anyday.

THis was int he book also (which came first?), wouldn't be BSG without this idea.

JM

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Watch that scene again and tell me who made the right decision

Um, YEAH. If she hadn't given the order, the entire fleet would have been vaporized by the Cylons. Did you watch the same movie I did?

So the president has a little more wit than a whiny 2nd LT fighter pilot. Excellent bar. She picked porkchops of Lo Mein for lunch too. She get props for that too?

Not Apollo, ADAMA, as in the commander. Cmdr Adama ordered them to regroup immediately. It was her decision to stay and find survivors. Her decision made it so nearly 50,000 people who would have died survived. Is that comparable to porkchops and lo mein to you?

Because we know there Earth does exist it seems like the right decison. As far as they are concerned, what they have really done is take a few thousand people out into deep space to starve/suffocate to death.

Um, first, if you had paid attention, you'd know that they don't know that Earth exists.

Her decision was right regardless, because now they at least have a chance. The other decision was to stay and be slaughtered by an enemy that outnumbered them a bazillion to one. What kind of retarded person would think that's the right decision?

They may starve in deep space, but they may find refuge on other habitable planets, or at least find sources of food. I'd certainly prefer that possibility over certain death at the hands of the Cylons.

Oh yeah, and since we know what the state of Earth is at the moment (remember BSG is present day), thanks for leading the Cylon fleet here too ass holes. I would take laying a world of hurt on a few Cylons over that anyday.

First, we don't know BSG is present day, as that was the original series. This isn't the original series.

Second, as reiterated above, they don't know Earth exists. The commander admitted to lying about knowing it. He mentioned it to keep spirits up--as far as they really know, it's just a myth.

Thirdly, what "world of hurt" would they lay on the Cylons? As the final battle showed, the BSG was going to get ****ed up royally. There wouldn't be any hurt on the Cylons, it would just be a quick slaughter of the humans.

Thank god you're not a commander of any kind! I'd hate to see you leading your people into certain death because you're too stubborn to know when you've lost and it's time to retreat.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by SpencerH
IIRC they said that earth was the first colony. That being the case, how come the 12 colonies are so advanced relative to us?

I don't think so, I think what was said was that there were 13 groups that founded the colonies out of Cobalt (sp?), and one of the groups was never heard from again. So they myth is that the 13th faction founded Earth, the lost colony.

As for why it would be backwards, I guess the explanation would be that the group had some sort of disaster and crashlanded on earth with a few survivors who had to propogate the species in primitive conditions.

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
The other decision was to stay and be slaughtered by an enemy that outnumbered them a bazillion to one. What kind of retarded person would think that's the right decision?

Let's remember that Adama originally wanted to stand and fight but when the Galactica is surrounded by the 2 Cylon Base ships at that weapons depot, that he realizes that the President was right and they need to run.

What I wonder is will the series have the Galactica discover new tech or make new allies that will help them defeat the Cylons militarily?