US drops from the top 10 free economies list

[Berzerker]

which was rather difficult If it wasn't cities would be blowing up all the time.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


I have no problem with productive immigrants. Like a intimidating Austrian who landed himself as governor in California.

I have no problems with people who work for a living. But those who are illegally... get out... and stop sucking up welfare. This isn't a communist hellhole.

I fail to see why someone would report to welfare without a legal identity.

[David Floyd]

Kid,

Poor people are overwhelmingly for social security, because the only other option for survival after their working lives is living with their poor children, sleeping on a spare bed in their grandchilren's room.

Yeah, and Martha Stewart supports more comfortable prisons. So what? Of course people in a position they don't want to be in are going to want "someone else" to fix it for them. Just because the poor overwhelmingly support Social Security doesn't mean they should get it.

And, and for whomever said it earlier, I, and most Libertarians, ARE in favor of massive decreases in military spending. I'm in favor of at least a 90% cut, personally.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Yeah, and Martha Stewart supports more comfortable prisons. So what?

That's this thing called "democracy."

[Alexander's Horse]

Its a simple equation really - either you have a social safety net or you have lots of jails for the underclass.

[Berzerker]

For eons people created that safety net locally thru their communities. It makes as much sense to send money to Wash DC for a safety net in your community as sending money to Wash DC to educate your kid. Oops, we are doing that.

[Saras]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Its a simple equation really - either you have a social safety net or you have lots of jails for the underclass.

Or perhaps a large, mostly uninhabited island somewhere far away.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
That's this thing called "democracy."

What would you know about it?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Saras
Or perhaps a large, mostly uninhabited island somewhere far away.

This is why we need global warming - make Antarctica habitable

[Saras]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


This is why we need global warming - make Antarctica habitable

We could also concede that the petty thieves and crooks that populate Australia have been rehabilitated and may return home to UK, thus making room for another round.

Otoh, that's a big point to concede

[David Floyd]

UR,

That's this thing called "democracy."

And the reason true democracy is a horrible idea is exactly that - poor people voting away all the rich and middle class's money.

AH,

Its a simple equation really - either you have a social safety net or you have lots of jails for the underclass.

I'm willing to pay for the prisons, not the social safety net. It's wrong for someone to steal from me, no matter what, and anyone who does steal should go to prison. On the other hand, I have no moral obligation to give money to other people who ask for it - their "need" doesn't create an obligation on my part.

[GePap]

DF would have been prime guillotine material back in 1791. Heck, if anyone still used it, he would still be prime guillotine material.

[Odin]

all this Libertarian BS is making my blood boil.

A libertarian economy would colapse into feudalism.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Its a simple equation really - either you have a social safety net or you have lots of jails for the underclass.

Or a strong police force and a harsh crime and punishment system, like shoot on sight anyone caught breaking the law. It's a stupid system, but is possible.

Originally posted by Odin
A libertarian economy would colapse into feudalism.

Yes, and would modern feudalism be so bad? Feudalism with modern technology would be a haven for the wealthy, so if you're able enough to becoem welathy, it's a great thing.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Why do you guys resent people who have more than you?

We're humans.