"war in Iraq can still be won" Yay! - wait a minute - can still be won?

[Ted Striker]

Set it up!!!

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
We need to get Tecumseh into an argument with Fez.

urgh... :vomit:

It wouldn't be funny so much as awful.

Now, Fez v. MNG over Windows/Macintosh... THAT is funny.

[techumseh]

Now who's trolling?

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by techumseh
And do you really think that the only motivation for people to fight the Americans is because they lost their jobs? Maybe their family was killed at a checkpoint, or in Fallujah. Or maybe they object to a foreign country attacking and occupying their country? Just a thought.

I think the people don't agree with you and would rather take part in elections. People like you want the failure of the US because of your delusional political objectives.

No Question on Jan. 30 Iraqi Elections, Official Says
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Jan. 4, 2005 -- There is no question that elections will be held in Iraq on Jan. 30, a senior State Department official said from Baghdad today.

Iraqis are scheduled to elect members of the National Assembly. Those members will act as a constitutional convention and determine the country's form of government.

The official said the security situation there has actually improved over the last six weeks. In most of Iraq, he said, the security situation is quite good.

However, in some areas security problems at polling places will be immense. A large number of insurgents plague the cities of Fallujah, Ramadi and Mosul, for example, and that will complicate the voting process.

"It's not going to be easy," the official said. "But people look at democracy and look at elections as a way out of the problem, not an intensification of it.

If people are given the chance to vote "they will turn out, and we're working very hard to give them that chance," he said.

The official said some polling places in these areas will be moved to more easily defended areas.

Plans continue to use Iraqi security forces to protect people around polling places. The Iraqi police, National Guard and army will all be charged with ensuring voters' safety. The official said stations will be surrounded by "rings" of security that will process people in quickly and still allow them to exercise their new right to the ballot box safely.

The official said he expects "an enormous" turnout in Shiia areas. Grand Ayatollah Sistani, the leader of the Shiia sect in Iraq, issued a fatwa saying all Shiia men and women have an obligation to vote in the upcoming election. The ayatollah's edict affects some 60 percent of Iraq's population.

The official also said he expects a "very large" turnout in Kurd-majority areas. The Kurds have had elections in the north for their regional government in the past. "There's a lot of interest in this," he said. Kurds make up a bit more than 20 percent of Iraq's population.

The official said that in the Sunni Triangle -- roughly the area going from Baghdad to Ramadi to Tikrit -- voting will be problematic. In some areas the security situation is quite good. In others, such as Ramadi, security is poor.

"It's not all blood and fire and destruction in all places every day," the official said. "Some places (in the Sunni Triangle) do have problems, but many others do not."

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jan2005/n01042005_2005010404.html

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Where's the joke? Israel is by far the most dangerous of all those states with a proven track record of attacking its neighbours and taking their territory.

... and of being attacked. Tell me, was there ever a peace treaty between Israel and Egypt, Syria, or anyone else they ever 'attacked', after they got jumped at 'birth'?

Have they invaded any country they have been at peace with? Can you say the same of NK and the PRC?

You have a damned funny definition of dangerous.

You North Americans live in a kind of bizarre dream world where the Middle East is concerned. You think of Israel in some sort of idealised way like in a Leon Uris novel.

And your standing up to support Israel as worse than Maoland and NK does not win you a life-time stay in bizarro land?

You don't have to think Israel can do no wrong to be able to understand that they aren't the only ones flinging pooh in the region.

[KrazyHorse]

Can you say the same of NK

Yes.

[notyoueither]

No, or what do you call that thing that the UN actually ever did anything about?

[notyoueither]

Did SK invade the North?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Ahem... were you intending to make such a large joke?

Showing your ignorance of history again, I see.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Arrian
If UR hadn't made his comment, Tibet would never have popped up.

I say, learn more about history first, before commenting on things you don't know.

[notyoueither]

He doesn't know that China jack-booted all over Tibet?

I suppose you're gonna explain to us now how that was justified.

[notyoueither]

What about the invasion of Vietnam? Was that a border patrol?

[notyoueither]

Do we wanna ask the Russians how good a neighbour China makes? Border wars can get awefully messy.

[notyoueither]

That Pol Pot guy. Was he a stooge of the CIA?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
He doesn't know that China jack-booted all over Tibet?

I suppose you're gonna explain to us now how that was justified.

The first problem you have is to prove your premise.