"war in Iraq can still be won" Yay! - wait a minute - can still be won?

[Giancarlo]

Alexander Horse.. you are truly pathetic. Rumsfeld should stay.

[el freako]

... and here we see Giancarlo's posting style in it's most minimalist, efficient form.

First insult someone.
Then assert the opposite of what they are saying whilst providing no counter-arguments


Giancarlo I salute you for perfecting your style

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
Alexander Horse.. you are truly pathetic. Rumsfeld should stay.

*pats little Giancarlo on the head*

[Patroklos]

Most government employees earn salary. I wish I worked by the hour.

I can only imagine what 6 moths of 24 hour days would yeild.

[The Mad Monk]

Rumsfeld is the one cabinet member who really, really needs to leave.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
Alexander Horse.. you are truly pathetic. Rumsfeld should stay.

You just made my day, Fez.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Oy... you wonder why oh why does Rumsfeld still have his job? He always leads to bad PR for Bush.

I thought the word was they're gonna let him stay through the Iraqi elections in January, and see how that goes.

If it goes at all poorly, I think hes history. McCain, Bill Kristol and the Weekly Standard, and Trent Lott are all calling for his ouster, and Richard Lugar and John Warner are none too happy with him.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Geronimo
AH, don't you wonder if the presence of the US troops might be doing as much to fuel the insurrection as it is doing to stabilise the country? I don 't understand why pulling troops out soon after the elections would necessarily be a bad thing. The insurrection appears to mainly be about popular opposition to being occupied by foreigners in which case no amount or duration of forgien troop presence will ever be able to make the country safe again.

I agree - the best thing that could happen would be for the US coalition to withdraw asap.

[Mr. Harley]

I hope Rumsfeld - OK, let's be careful here I've avoided being banned so far - gets to live long enough to see all the documentaries about just how incompetent he was. I also hope he gets to watch as a flame in I believe it is the eighth circle, I need to break out my Dante. Yep, eighth circle, bolgia eight.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
I thought the word was they're gonna let him stay through the Iraqi elections in January, and see how that goes.

If it goes at all poorly, I think hes history. McCain, Bill Kristol and the Weekly Standard, and Trent Lott are all calling for his ouster, and Richard Lugar and John Warner are none too happy with him.

And with all that support against him, I think it'd be suicide to back Rummy anymore.

[techumseh]

Rumsfeld is the sacrificial goat for the failed scheme of the US ruling circles to steal Iraq's oil.

[Mr. Harley]

Techumseh, I suspect while that may have been indirectly on people like Cheney's agenda, you don't understand the genuine neocons. They truly believe in their righteousness, that they have received the most recent pronouncements from on high, and that of course everyone must agree with them. Give me an simple incompetent to a incompetent fanatic any day.

[Zevico]

For some reason, Giancarlo reminds me of a certain character in The Quiet American...

[techumseh]

The fanatical neocons are the followers, not the leaders. The leaders are pragmatic thugs, who lead their followers with ideology. Neocon ideology is the new religion of imperial America. It's adherents are the neo-conned.

I put both Cheney and Rumsfeld in the leader category. Bush is another thing entirely.

[Mr. Harley]

Unfortunately I don't think it was as simple as stealing the oil. I suspect, and this is only a suspicion, that the morons assumed that a democratic Iraq would pump oil as fast as it could to rebuild, and that only US companies would get the contracts. That way they would profit doubly. More of the "open arms" (as in we don't need troops for order, they will welcome us with open arms) incompetentcy.

They forgot about India and China, and also made one of the greatest mistakes any military planner can make. They assumed lack of planning on their oppositions part. Saddam did an excellent job planning for the insurgency, the only rational opposition he could hope for at the time. Oil pipelines are large, fragile targets.

As I said, eighth circle, bolgia eight.