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  • #271
    China... more carbon dioxide than the current combined total of the United States, Japan and Canada.

    Let's see how that plays out, and then see who is 'owned', dude.

    Care to place monetary units on it?
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    • #272
      Originally posted by Ted Striker


      Name calling
      I shouldn't say Bob in a thread you post in? I had no idea you were insecure in your Tedness.
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      • #273
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        • #274
          No. I didn't. You seem to have though.
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          • #275
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            • #276
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              Last edited by Ted Striker; August 3, 2020, 18:31.
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              • #277
                Why not? You have been for the entire thread.
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                • #278
                  Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
                  crichton disputes all of this. antartic ice shelves are melting on one part of the continenet but are growing bigger on the other side (net = zero) a study of Vanutu island in the pacific shows no increase in sea level in the last 30 years.
                  That's one datum, which gets contradicted by data coming from the Maldives. Next.
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                  • #279
                    Originally posted by BlackCat
                    Maybe i'm wrong, but i see nature as a very adaptive thing. If i as an ice bear no longer can survive in this area, the i move. If i cannot move quickly enough, then some relatives elswhere may survive and when climate changes in our favour, then we retake lost ground.
                    It does not work that way. Species need time to adapt, which they don't have, according to general consensus, if you want to see it that way. It's not just a matter of moving, there's also the question of food, breeding ground, and a whole host of factors.

                    Originally posted by BlackCat
                    I have a little question : what if climate changes isn't manmade?
                    All signs are pointing to a drastic climatic change caused by human activities.
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                    • #280
                      Originally posted by notyoueither
                      China... more carbon dioxide than the current combined total of the United States, Japan and Canada.
                      No. The US accounts for 23% and China 13%, a distinct second.
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                      • #281
                        ...in 2025.
                        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                        • #282
                          Projected, UR. You have to read the whole thread. I quoted, and it was ignored. Then I cut the quote, and it was ignored. Eventually, I arrived at the bit you quoted.

                          Ted has been ignoring growth and the future, so I thought it was kosher to do likewise.
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                          • #283
                            I'm still waiting for him to show where CA is heavy on heavy industry, or even how it amounts to much at all. All I've got so far is that he can see a refinery from his bedroom window, and that chemicals are big. Well, they are 6th in US states in chemical manufacture.

                            We're still waiting for Ted to explain this, or in fact, to have any facts at all other than the bedroom window view.
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                            • #284
                              In 2025? You think China is not going to improve energy and fuel efficiency and tighten standards like Japan, California, and Europe?
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                              • #285
                                Oh, I think you will. However, you will continue to grow industrially in leaps and bounds, and your government will be under no external constraints to stop it, unlike signatories of Kyoto.

                                And then if China doies not want the jobs, I am sure Vietnam or Indonesia will.
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