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  • #76
    Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
    Never mind the fact that creating any sort of a usable interface for it would be impossible (I'd hate a computer that beeps at me when I misspell something (even though I rarely do - I learned English by writing it, not speaking it )),
    This does not have to be the case. There can be a standard widget that reads keyboard input, then a subclass of this widget that does spellchecking.

    Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
    it'd also have problems with localisation (how do you know what language the user is supposed to be using?),
    A lot of things on a GUI needs to have knowledge of the locale anyway.

    Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
    with figuring out any sort of movement in textboxes other than going left or right one character at a time (where do you hop to if the user presses the up arrow in a textbox whose width you don't know? How do you *know* it's a textbox to begin with?).


    I don't see how it needs to know anything about a textbox or something else. It can just flag a string between white spaces as unrecognised.
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    • #77
      Nice to see you replied to my post, UR. You might want to read it now, too .
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
        Allright, you got me there. Actually I did believe that XUL back-ends on the native widgets of the platform it's running on... but I couldn't find any conclusive information about that by either poking around in the source or Googling. Some say that XUL draws with native widgets, some say it doesn't, some say it draws only some stuff with native widgets but not everything.
        They do not use native widgets. If they did, textareas in Firefox 1.0 wouldn't have the cursor-overlapping-last-character-by-1px bug that's been fixed in post 1.0 Firefox.

        The XUL widgets in Firefox and Mozilla are meant to approximate the native widgets only.

        I don't see how it needs to know anything about a textbox or something else. It can just flag a string between white spaces as unrecognised.
        And what does it do when it hits an urecognized word...?
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Kuciwalker


          That's what you are. You're the one talking about a plot of IBM to buy Apple's PC business so it can drive Microsoft out of business
          Drive M$ out of business?! I never said anything like it; and I don't want to see that happen anyway. Rather, I would like to see MS become forced to "reinvent" itself and actually innovate as much as it's customers would like it to and sell it's products and services at more reasonable price$.
          HAVE A DAY.
          <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
          "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
          For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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          • #80
            How can you insist MS sell its products and services at a reasonable price, when it's cheaper than Apple?
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #81
              Oh, and one more thing. . .

              I would also someday like to see M$ become forced (in order to stay profitable) to develop products and services for other OSes and platforms (besides Mac OS X) such as Linux.

              That would be suweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
              HAVE A DAY.
              <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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              • #82
                Why would Microsoft make their products for Linux? People use Linux to escape Microsoft...

                It costs a lot of money to develop software on other platforms, and it makes no sense to do so if the people won't buy it.

                That said, Microsoft's push is for .NET software. MS also made a "shared source" implementation of a .NET runtime (think of the Java runtime) for *nixes, and is helping Ximian produce their own open source .NET runtime.

                This means applications developed for .NET (ie, all future Windows Longhorn applications), can run on any platform with a .NET runtime (Windows, MacOS, Linux, etC).
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Asher
                  How can you insist MS sell its products and services at a reasonable price, when it's cheaper than Apple?
                  Some M$ products and services are actually sold at reasonable prices and some of it isn't. Apple is just as innocent and guilty of this.
                  HAVE A DAY.
                  <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                  "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                  For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                  • #84
                    There are two keywords that you missed here: 'someday' and 'forced' (in order to stay profitable).

                    Someday when there is enough Linux marketshare to demand it and not enough Windows marketshare to make enough money, M$ will have no choice but to develop products and services for Linux in order to stay profitable. You just watch.
                    HAVE A DAY.
                    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by MrFun
                      There is?


                      "Is there?"

                      Parlez vous en Anglais?
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
                        Oh, and one more thing. . .

                        I would also someday like to see M$ become forced (in order to stay profitable) to develop products and services for other OSes and platforms (besides Mac OS X) such as Linux.

                        That would be suweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!


                        Ugh. As long as I don't have to use that crap.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Asher
                          And what does it do when it hits an urecognized word...?
                          That would be up to the program receiving the signal.
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
                            Drive M$ out of business?! I never said anything like it; and I don't want to see that happen anyway. Rather, I would like to see MS become forced to "reinvent" itself and actually innovate as much as it's customers would like it to and sell it's products and services at more reasonable price$.


                            On a second note, IBM does have good strategic reason to form a strong partnership with Apple. The reason is because it undermines Microsoft, it's old enemy. IBM is already undermining Microsoft by being the largest financial supporter of Linux; it could do even more to undermine Microsoft by also supporting Apple.

                            'Nuff said.

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                            • #89
                              IBM sells off its PC division then does what, "form a close joint venture with Apple to sell its PCs"? Sorry, its just ludicrous speculation. Apple is a business flyspeck to either IBM or MS (especially MS). MS could take-over Apple out of petty-cash.
                              We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                                Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
                                Drive M$ out of business?! I never said anything like it; and I don't want to see that happen anyway. Rather, I would like to see MS become forced to "reinvent" itself and actually innovate as much as it's customers would like it to and sell it's products and services at more reasonable price$.


                                On a second note, IBM does have good strategic reason to form a strong partnership with Apple. The reason is because it undermines Microsoft, it's old enemy. IBM is already undermining Microsoft by being the largest financial supporter of Linux; it could do even more to undermine Microsoft by also supporting Apple.

                                'Nuff said.
                                I never said anything like it.
                                HAVE A DAY.
                                <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                                "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                                For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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