Discourse and Discussion - Cap/Com

[Az]

Originally posted by Arrian
We still haven't dealt with the corporate flight problem yet. That's the tough challenge, IMO.

-Arrian

wait, I am not following you people on that discussion: what do you peopel think causes "corporate flight", and what is it?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kidicious


But we pay 2% of our income for cleaner environment. We could get more for our money I'm sure, but I think it's worth it. Manufacturers will make about the same amount of profit as the service providers. Some will go out of business and go into service industry. That's the way the economy is suppose to work.

Probably the first post I have seen from kidicious where there wasn't ANYTHING with which I vehemently disagreed

[Velociryx]

See, here's my big problem...my main beef.

Let us start with the Big Red Mantra that Labor is precious. Labor is all there is. The Alpha and the Omega. Labor is precious.

Mmmmkay! Got it. Right. Labor = Good.

Including my labor.

Which is why, I suppose, on the day of the Revolution, men with guns will come to remove me from my home.

MY home.

The home I sweated and bled out my....(here comes that word again) LABOR to purchase.

So maybe my labor isn't held in quite as much esteem. It would seem not. But yeah....since I have a nicer home than the whiney party faithful down the block, I OBVIOUSLY used some wicked and nefarious means of acquiring it. I couldn't possibly have come by it fairly....which I suppose, makes it okay to come and rob me.

Makes it easier to live with, tellin yourself that, anyways.

Your Revolution promises to toss my capitalist a$$ in some state run housing project and put a party faithful in the house that MY labor bought and paid for.

And justice for all, right? Uh huh.

Again...I think I'll pass.

-=Vel=-

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Azazel


wait, I am not following you people on that discussion: what do you peopel think causes "corporate flight", and what is it?

Flight is the movement of businesses to third-world nations from the US and Europe etc. The cause is lesser labor costs, less taxes and less environmental or other compliance regulation

[Az]

Wait, so the solution is to turn the US and EU into 3rd world countries by deregulating, and "lowering labour costs"?

[Az]

Velociryx KOs Strawman. Flawless victory.

[Velociryx]

Sad part is, 'zazel...it's what would happen, should the glorious revolution come to pass.

Actually, that's one of the BETTER scenarios.

-=Vel=-

[Az]

The realistic scenario includes eating babies?

[Agathon]

Your Revolution promises to toss my capitalist a$$ in some state run housing project and put a party faithful in the house that MY labor bought and paid for.

You would have been able to afford a nicer house if a capitalist hadn't appropriated some of your labour for himself.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Azazel
Wait, so the solution is to turn the US and EU into 3rd world countries by deregulating, and "lowering labour costs"?

While that would solve corporate flight NO its not a solution I advocate. The better solution is to raise the standard of living and increase the level of regulation in the 3rd world.

I would do it myself but my magic wand is in my other jacket.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
See, here's my big problem...my main beef.

Let us start with the Big Red Mantra that Labor is precious. Labor is all there is. The Alpha and the Omega. Labor is precious.

Mmmmkay! Got it. Right. Labor = Good.

Including my labor.

Which is why, I suppose, on the day of the Revolution, men with guns will come to remove me from my home.

MY home.

The home I sweated and bled out my....(here comes that word again) LABOR to purchase.

So maybe my labor isn't held in quite as much esteem. It would seem not. But yeah....since I have a nicer home than the whiney party faithful down the block, I OBVIOUSLY used some wicked and nefarious means of acquiring it. I couldn't possibly have come by it fairly....which I suppose, makes it okay to come and rob me.

Makes it easier to live with, tellin yourself that, anyways.

Your Revolution promises to toss my capitalist a$$ in some state run housing project and put a party faithful in the house that MY labor bought and paid for.

And justice for all, right? Uh huh.

Again...I think I'll pass.

-=Vel=-

No one is going to throw you out of your house bud, but I'm reconsidering you as a communist. You definitely have a way with words.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Flubber



While that would solve corporate flight NO its not a solution I advocate. The better solution is to raise the standard of living and increase the level of regulation in the 3rd world.

I would do it myself but my magic wand is in my other jacket.

You're forgeting one thing. The profit corporations are making in the 3rd world is keeping capitalism alive. Without it capitalism will fail.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kidicious


You're forgeting one thing. The profit corporations are making in the 3rd world is keeping capitalism alive. Without it capitalism will fail.

I call bullcrap. Capitalism would survive just fine if the wages in the 3rd world wages came up to US levels. It would be a major adjustment but imagine ALL those consumers

Demand will skyrocket!!!!

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Flubber



I call bullcrap. Capitalism would survive just fine if the wages in the 3rd world wages came up to US levels. It would be a major adjustment but imagine ALL those consumers

Demand will skyrocket!!!!

Think of all that stagflation.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Velociryx
See, here's my big problem...my main beef.

You know what my main beef with you is? You're always telling us what we think. Stop assuming. This ain't Dr Zhivago. We're not gonna be stealing people's homes. Okay, maybe if you have two or more, but you don't need more than one home.