Dutch kill babies, the comatose and the mentally retarded!

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Re: Dutch kill babies, the comatose and the mentally retarded!

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[OzzyKP]

The hell with what the parents think. Or the doctors.

If the person is alive, and can live then no parent, doctor, or "independent committee" should be allowed to kill it. That's murder no matter how you slice it.

The mentally ill deserve to live as much as anyone else. And parents shouldn't be allowed to kill their children in the hospital any more than at home.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
If the person is alive, and can live then no parent, doctor, or "independent committee" should be allowed to kill it. That's murder no matter how you slice it.

Not if it's legal. Murder is unlawful killing, no matter how you slice it.

The mentally ill deserve to live as much as anyone else. And parents shouldn't be allowed to kill their children in the hospital any more than at home.

Children born with severe physical disabilities that make even the act of breathing a torment deserve to have a peaceful, painless end to their suffering just as much as the terminally ill do.

[Pekka]

So wait... they kill babies that are already born if they are retarded and no one objects?

[Harry Tuttle]

****, I better cancel my ticket to the Netherlands. My eyesight is 20/50000

[Nacht]

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
****, I better cancel my ticket to the Netherlands. My eyesight is 20/50000

Yes, we're all very scared. Men in white coats are waiting at every corner, the disabled stay inside, it's horrible

[Harry Tuttle]

Originally posted by Nacht
Yes, we're all very scared. Men in white coats are waiting at every corner, the disabled stay inside, it's horrible

Do they have butterfly nets?

[Pekka]

So do they kill those babies after they are born or what? The retarded ones I mean, babies in coma are obviously already born.

[self biased]

Originally posted by St Leo
I wasn't born retarded. It took me years to get this retarded and I am damn proud of every second.

sig material.

[el freako]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
The hell with what the parents think. Or the doctors.

If the person is alive, and can live then no parent, doctor, or "independent committee" should be allowed to kill it. That's murder no matter how you slice it

The question is how much resources should be expended in order keep such a person alive?

Resources are not infinite, even if taxation was at 100% you still would have to make choices about who should live and who should die.

And maybe it is bad for people to die in this way - but remember that the resources that would be used to save them have to come from somewhere else, in other words "how many other, possibly more viable, people have to die due to lack of resources in order to save this person?"

[OzzyKP]

Maybe if we saved resources by allowing those who want to die do so, then we wouldn't have to try saving resources by killing people who don't wish to.

[Combat Ingrid]

Groningen estimated the protocol would be applicable in about 10 cases per year in the Netherlands, a country of 16 million people.

Yes, that will surely have a radical impact on their health care costs

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
then we wouldn't have to try saving resources by killing people who don't wish to.

And you know this how? Mindreader of infants, are you?

[Pekka]

So this is my 3rd attempt. Are these retarded babies born or not when they kill them?

[OzzyKP]

It is a reasonably safe assumption that all people desire life. It is our nature. Yes, even infants.

Besides, I'd rather err on the side of caution, i.e. life. If the infant decides a few years later he would prefer death, that could easily be arranged. A dead infant gets no second chances.