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  • #31
    Originally posted by Tuberski
    I thought it was a great movie and I'm not a Tom Cruise fan.

    The whole point of the attack is that they knew it was futile to fight.

    But it is the Samurai way, and the leader want the Emperor to see what was the right way.

    The most poignant part of the movie was the guy standing at the machine gun and crying as he killed these very honourable samurai.

    ACK!
    They would make a better point if they flanked the fixed position and over run it. The guy would probably cry even more if he was the only survivor among the minced- meat gun crew. It would REALLY prove the Samurai way.

    I hate Hollywood movie makers who didn't even go though boot camp. There are just too many idiotic military moves depicted as heroic.
    So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
    Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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    • #32
      You didn't get the whole point of the movie then........

      ;p ACK!
      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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      • #33
        I just watched Blue Velvet last night with some friends.
        "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
        —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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        • #34
          Originally posted by monolith94
          The Talented Mr. Ripley

          next up: Throne of Blood
          I loved Throne of Blood. I want the DVD, but $36.oo or thereabouts, is a little steep right now.
          "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
          —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Tuberski
            You didn't get the whole point of the movie then........

            ;p ACK!
            No, I did not. Please explain to me: What was the honour of losing a battle you could easily have won, by attacking from a 90 degrees different angle?
            So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
            Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


              About ten times. But I can't remember any arrogant frontal assault happening there. One guy was shot from behind though
              I thought you'd mention that. They are both similar: they are not intended to be "realistic" but instead "poetic". They are both there to make a point: both are in the movie for a specific reason. Last Samurai is completely about the honor of the warrior, and the most honorable thing to do is fight until you are dead. In Platoon, the point of that scene was death of innocense, ie Dafoe's character was the "good" one, and his death was modeled as a sacrafice, but it took dozens of men to bring him down.

              I, for one, love poetry in my movies.
              "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
              ^ The Poly equivalent of:
              "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


                No, I did not. Please explain to me: What was the honour of losing a battle you could easily have won, by attacking from a 90 degrees different angle?
                The point was, the Samurai knew that they couldn't win the war. Even if they had won that battle, they would have lost the war.

                The whole point of them fighting was to get the Emperor to do what he finally did and grow some balls.

                Japanese culture is different, obviously....

                ACK!
                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                • #38
                  That does not explain why they used such clever tactics in the infantry battle the same day. If the point was to die, why not die instantly, just running bravely against a wall of rifles?
                  So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                  Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                  • #39
                    ESB, the new DVD release.
                    Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                    • #40
                      I watched Hero on Wednesday. Half way through I thought that the movie had utterly no point other to be a vehicle for a seemingly unending stream of gratuitous martial arts battles. The conclusion however tied it all together. This is probably the first Quentin Tarrantino flick that I can say that I truly admired.

                      I also watched The Incredibles this week. Hey, what can I say, I've got kids.
                      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                      • #41
                        What is ESB?

                        ACK!
                        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                        • #42
                          The Empire Strikes Back. Duh!

                          PTHBBPPPTTT!!!
                          Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                            The Empire Strikes Back. Duh!

                            PTHBBPPPTTT!!!
                            D'OH!!!!!

                            ACK!
                            Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                            • #44
                              I also love Rambo 3, where a Russian GENERAL (!!!) in a helicopter attacks Rambo, who's riding a tank, from the FRONT OF THE TANK INSTEAD OF FLANKING IT. And Rambo just raises the tank gun and shoots the helicopter out of the sky.

                              It reminds me of something
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                              So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                              Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                              • #45
                                Under Siege 2: Dark Territory with Steven Segal. It was on Channel 10.

                                I viewed two bad pictures in the cinema lately.

                                The Forgotten , which seems like a nice psychological thriller but ends up a silly
                                Spoiler:
                                alien movie
                                .

                                And I watched "Japanese story" with a lady friend. Literally. At the beginning it was us both and another couple, but they left mid-film saying something like "there's no hope for this".

                                It was an amusing bad film.

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