CBS Poll: Creationism Trumps Evolution

[Whaleboy]

it is that those people have influenced the public school system to actually teach this crap to their children.

Well said . It defies reason. Every single time I hear about this makes me more determined to write a book declaring war on Christian fundies. And don't worry, I have a plan that makes Jeanette Winterson look like a Pentecostal Evangelist .

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Evolutionist s!

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Art Vandelay
Interesting how the folks on here who are finger-pointing at "leftist education" don't come out and "disprove" evolution

There's no sense in arguing either point: Creationism and Evolution. We all know that those kinds of arguments never get anywhere anyway. Neither side is ever convinced the opposite is true.

[Whaleboy]

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy


There's no sense in arguing either point: Creationism and Evolution. We all know that those kinds of arguments never get anywhere anyway. Neither side is ever convinced the opposite is true.

What on earth are you smoking? Evolution refutes creationism on every point, and Principle of Sufficient Reason refutes creationists take on the big bang too. The only reason that the debates never go anywhere is because the creationists are too dogmatic to either listen, understand or change their views in the face of an overwhemingly superior opposing argument, resorting instead to ad hominem at worst, or simply repeating themselves at best in the delusion that they actually have an argument!

[Mr. Nice Guy]

You've convinced me of nothing. Keep on Whaleboy. You'll never succeed.

BTW, I don't smoke. Never have. Never will.

[Whaleboy]

Your dogmatism is indicative of the kind of attitude that prevents the debate getting anywhere. If someone were to dogmatically and rigidly claim that 1+1=3, then any appeals to the obvious or rigorous proofs that 1+1=2 would fail to convince. Of course, a debate is not a popularity contest, and the more consistent position is not measured by how many idiots it succeeds in convincing.

[Whaleboy]

Of course, what would be more interesting would be to ask if the creationists could attempt to convince me of their view.

[dannubis]

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
You've convinced me of nothing. Keep on Whaleboy. You'll never succeed.

BTW, I don't smoke. Never have. Never will.

the earth is flat, the sun revolves around it and the stars are really holes punctured in a black piece of cloth...

didn't you know ?

[MarkG]

67 percent of Bush voters

the world is doomed

might as well go play some tradewars

[Combat Ingrid]

My favourite part of the article:

Overall, about two-thirds of Americans want creationism taught along with evolution. Only 37 percent want evolutionism replaced outright.

So "only" 37% of the Americans are FUBAR!

[cubbyphan1138]

These numbers look a little weird. Without knowing the actual questions that were asked this article is meaningless. For instance:


FAVOR SCHOOLS TEACHING…

Creationism and evolution
All Americans
65%

Creationism instead of evolution
All Americans
37%

65% + 37% = 102%

Something isn't right here.

Basically this poll is crap.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by cubbyphan1138
Basically this poll is crap.

The fundie who posted the poll has already admitted as much.

[Gibsie]

The only part he has an issue with this is fact that those who agree with evolution are better educated, though.

[loinburger]

You mean "better brainwashed by the leftist propoganda machine" lolololollol.

It's the usual fundie trick of reading the parts you like and ignoring the parts you don't like. CBS says that there are a lot of American creationists, so it must be telling the truth. But it also says that creationists have poorer educations on average, so the poll must be influence by liberal bias. Leviticus says that God hates fags, and who in their right mind could disagree with that? Leviticus says that bats are a kind of bird, but, well, ummm... God hates fags.

[Arrian]

Mr. Nice Guy is Apolyton's Genuine Fundie Creationist.

His "arguments" against evolution consist generally of and and

I'd pity him, but I just can't muster the pity. Probably because people who think the way he does scare the crap out of me (for those who spent time in the CivIII strategy forum, I rate Mr. Nice Guy at 10 on the STCOMOM).

Sigh.

-Arrian