Queen bans fox hunting!

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Ming

Face it... the animal is KILLED just so you can eat. You could eat something else... it's not like it's life and death for you... so spare me the high and mighty crap

there are a lot of subjects that arn't 'life or death' to me (or anyone else for that matter), it doesn't mean I can't have opinions on them.

[Frozzy]

What, the US rips animals to bits with dogs now to give you a succulent turkey? Fox hunting was an inhumane way of killing animals, and that was their qualm. Killing for food is far more humane (i.e. great care is taken to cause it a minimum of suffering) than sending packs of dogs to rip an animal limb for limb.

If you care so much about killing the things get a bloody gun.

[Ming]

Originally posted by reds4ever
there are a lot of subjects that arn't 'life or death' to me (or anyone else for that matter), it doesn't mean I can't have opinions on them.

You misunderstood what I was saying... My point was you didn't have to eat meat to LIVE... you could always eat something else. You eat meat and fish because you LIKE to... and because of it, animals DIE, and in the prime of their life too...

[reds4ever]

Ming, I don't know how to split the quotes and anwser them one by one (seriously, I don't).

But the bottom line for me is killing for fun is wrong, and to say its 'tradition' is a cop out, living in caves is a 'tradition' we don't do it these days though do we?

[Ming]

Originally posted by Kalius
What, the US rips animals to bits with dogs now to give you a succulent turkey? Fox hunting was an inhumane way of killing animals, and that was their qualm. Killing for food is far more humane (i.e. great care is taken to cause it a minimum of suffering) than sending packs of dogs to rip an animal limb for limb.

In the end... the animal is dead... you can argue about it's death, but frankly, go to a chicken farm and see the miserable life they get before they get slaughtered in their prime... but I guess it's ok since you like the taste of chicken

[Frozzy]

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[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Ming


You misunderstood what I was saying... My point was you didn't have to eat meat to LIVE... you could always eat something else. You eat meat and fish because you LIKE to... and because of it, animals DIE, and in the prime of their life too...

thats 'cos they taste nicer in their prime!

Humans are meant to eat meat, not to chase around the countryside all day chasing one fox just for the hell of it.

I mean, it takes 50 men and 20 odd dogs 6 hours to kill 1 fox!

[Frozzy]

In the end... the animal is dead... you can argue about it's death, but frankly, go to a chicken farm and see the miserable life they get before they get slaughtered in their prime... but I guess it's ok since you like the taste of chicken

I actually dislike chicken, especially in New Zealand, they pump water into the things just to make it look bigger. But I digress.

The living of the animal is irrelevant. The issue at hand is the actual killing of the animal. Killing of domesticated animals: humane in that it causes a minimum of suffering to the animal, traditional fox hunting = inhumane.

If the legislation banned kiddies from blocking foxholes so foxes had to spend the night in the pouring rain building a new one, I'd agree with you

[Immortal Wombat]

[alva]

Originally posted by Kalius
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[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Ming


In the end... the animal is dead... you can argue about it's death, but frankly, go to a chicken farm and see the miserable life they get before they get slaughtered in their prime... but I guess it's ok since you like the taste of chicken

You are absolutely right. That's why it's good to be a vegetarian.
Say no to this barbarous and primitive behaviour I say
Hunting is fine as long as it serves its purpose which is to provide food and other items such as leather. Beyond that it is not only useless, but also cruel, and basically it's decadent in general.
We today are unnaturally spoiled in the way we are getting food on our plate. There's totally no respect at all for nature.
Hunting with a legion of dogs, and 20 other mofo's on horseback armed with a double barrel shotty is noway considerable as "hunting".

Hunting is much more than that, however nobody these days but primitive tribes will hunt the normal way anymore of course.

[alva]

Ming, you gotta start somewhere.

By your reasoning, we should allow manhunting too (not necessarily as bad idea though. )

No one is expecting mankind too be completely consequent, just to be improving as it's goes along.

Yes they are.

No

Unless, of course, it's OK to kill things, including people, just because it's useful?

Not ok, but less bad.

Animals are not people. They have no rights.

Matter of opinion.

Then again, neither should minors..

[reds4ever]

How anyone can regard the above picture as 'fun' is beyond me.

Anyhow, its going to be banned and the upper classes will have go back to other 'traditional' passtimes such as bear baiting, witch dunking and marrying your sister

[alva]

Originally posted by reds4ever
How anyone can regard the above picture as 'fun' is beyond me.

Anyhow, its going to be banned and the upper classes will have go back to other 'traditional' passtimes such as bear baiting, witch dunking and marrying your sister

I always love it when they bring in the "ohh, we HAVE to hunt them in order to controll the population", when it's the same *rse***** who introduced them into Australia.

[:) Smiley]

Soon you could go hunting via the net.

Just when ya thought that some things can't be electronicized...