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  • #16
    Re: Re: Re: Are these political cartoons offensive?

    Originally posted by Sprayber


    Why should it be strange to you? Double standards exist on both sides. Increasly on both sides as a matter of fact.


    so true
    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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    • #17
      Incidentally, I'm still having a hard time getting over how much Rush L. looks like Archie Bunker. It's uncanny or something.
      "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
      "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world

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      • #18
        Just saw the Danzinger: this one is indeed offensive, as it makes a facile attack against Rice, using her feminity as a way to attack her. I wouldn't say it criticizes Rice because she is a woman (which would be the really mysoginist thing to do), but it's still very tasteless, and hints to sexism.

        I wouldn't be surprised if a Feminist organization got uppity about that cartoon.
        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Arrian
          @ Diplomat. Registered at Rush's site, eh? Not that I'm surprised.

          -Arrian
          And even proud of it!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Spiffor

            I wouldn't be surprised if a Feminist organization got uppity about that cartoon.

            Somehow, I don't think the issue will come up. Just a feeling I get.
            Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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            • #21
              I don't get the danziger at all.
              Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

              It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
              The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                And even proud of it!
                Why not? I get a monthly newletter, a secret email adress to Rush, all the political parodies, clips from the Rush TV show, the full stack of stuff and I can listen to the entire show commercial free anytime of day or night.
                'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Last Conformist
                  I don't get the danziger at all.
                  I think it depicts Rice as unable to understand a complex issue (aluminium tubes)... That's because, as a woman, her "role of a lifetime" is to raise children, not to adress complex issues such as these.
                  "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                  "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                  "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                  • #24
                    It would probably help if any of them were funny, but I see no problem with them other than being crap. Are liberals meant to get angry and cry racism because the target is a black woman, or something?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Gibsie
                      Are liberals meant to get angry and cry racism because the target is a black woman, or something?
                      I would think that Liberals should applaud the fact that an African-American woman acheived a great education and has risen to the top to become Secretary of State. Instead, we get cartoons from prominent left cartoonists depicting her as ignorant, a puppet of Bush, and good for nothing but staying home and having babies.
                      'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                      G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Spiffor

                        I think it depicts Rice as unable to understand a complex issue (aluminium tubes)... That's because, as a woman, her "role of a lifetime" is to raise children, not to adress complex issues such as these.
                        What's complex about aluminium tubes?
                        Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                        It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                        The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Last Conformist
                          What's complex about aluminium tubes?
                          The complexity is that the aluminium tubes could be used for rockets not just in developing nukes. The cartoon is trying to say that Condi Rice was too ignorant to know that the tubes were not being used for nuclear weapons.
                          'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                          G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                          • #28
                            For political cartoons, they're worse than offensive.

                            They're not funny.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Spiffor

                              I think it depicts Rice as unable to understand a complex issue (aluminium tubes)... That's because, as a woman, her "role of a lifetime" is to raise children, not to adress complex issues such as these.
                              I believe its a reference to a scene in Gone with the Wind, in which the black servant says shes knows all about delivering babies.
                              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by lord of the mark


                                I believe its a reference to a scene in Gone with the Wind, in which the black servant says shes knows all about delivering babies.

                                The phrasing is black dialect.
                                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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