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  • #91
    Originally posted by muxec
    When Franklin said that the situation was totally different.
    The principle is the same.

    Originally posted by muxec
    65% of muslims support terrorists. Think about it. We value our lifes high they do not.
    Care to actually provide proof of that number?

    -Drachasor
    "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
      Isn't it US policy to retaliate to attack by WMD's by WMD's, IOW, nukes?

      (I think it was redone a while back, to allow first strikes with WMD's, tho...)
      Oh, right, so if North Korea nuked us we'd go and nuke Japan?

      -Drachasor
      "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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      • #93
        Proposing to nuke Mecca is punishing a population that isn't at fault for the crimes of another
        USAian tax-payers funded nukes used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Hypothetic Al-Qaeda nuke was funded by muslim people.
        money sqrt evil;
        My literacy level are appalling.

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        • #94
          I would take such a situation (nuke going off in Chicago) quite personally. Al Qaeda might not be targetting me personally, but they would have destroyed something special to me. In response, I would destroy something special to them. I wouldn't just nuke Mecca without warning. I'd give maybe 48 hours for people to leave. I'm not looking to kill innocents. I'm looking to destroy the symbol of Mecca.

          And Drach, there's a reason we have anger. It's a survival trait. Those that get angry kill their enemies. Pacifism is admirable, but in the end, who is going to survive? Those unwilling to take action? Or those willing to take action?
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Drachasor


            Oh, right, so if North Korea nuked us we'd go and nuke Japan?

            -Drachasor


            there's quite clearly a big **** difference between the two countries nkorea and japan, whereas it's harder to pinpoint the location of al qaeda and whether or not it's in saudi arabia. nice attempt, but try again.
            B♭3

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Sava
              I would take such a situation (nuke going off in Chicago) quite personally. Al Qaeda might not be targetting me personally, but they would have destroyed something special to me. In response, I would destroy something special to them. I wouldn't just nuke Mecca without warning. I'd give maybe 48 hours for people to leave. I'm not looking to kill innocents. I'm looking to destroy the symbol of Mecca.

              And Drach, there's a reason we have anger. It's a survival trait. Those that get angry kill their enemies. Pacifism is admirable, but in the end, who is going to survive? Those unwilling to take action? Or those willing to take action?
              I'm not a pacifist and I don't advocate pacifism.* I advocate measures that stop problems though, not make them worse.

              Anger was more useful in much, much more primitive times. Now we need to be a lot more careful about how we use it, because it isn't as though we are fully evolved for our current society.

              -Drachasor

              *Though I am hopeful that one day we will not have wars.
              "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Q Cubed


                there's quite clearly a big **** difference between the two countries nkorea and japan, whereas it's harder to pinpoint the location of al qaeda and whether or not it's in saudi arabia. nice attempt, but try again.
                Al Qaeda isn't in Saudi Arabia, it isn't in any one country. It is a state-less operation. Nuking a state and killing civilians is not going to help matters. It is hitting a target that isn't responsible for what happened, but one that is merely loosely connected with it.

                -Drachasor
                "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                • #98
                  Al Qaeda isn't in Saudi Arabia, it isn't in any one country. It is a state-less operation
                  Yeah, now that we took care of Iraq.
                  Monkey!!!

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by muxec
                    USAian tax-payers funded nukes used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Hypothetic Al-Qaeda nuke was funded by muslim people.
                    By *some* Muslim people, and just like internment camps weren't appropriate in WWII, nuking Mecca isn't appropriate in the war on terror. In fact it is far, far less appropriate.

                    Additionally, it would make the problem of terrorism worse and more bloody, it wouldn't help solve it.

                    Is everyone here so bloodthirsty that advocate making a war worse as opposed to better? That they advocate prolonging misery and pain more than necessary?

                    -Drachasor
                    "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                    • #100
                      i'm not disagreeing with you there, that attacking a state actor for a non-state actor's actions isn't exactly the best move...

                      but your point about nuking japan for nkorea's actions, both state actors, is patently ridiculous and farcical, especially when trying to argue against nuking mecca in retaliation.
                      B♭3

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                      • #101
                        Originally posted by Japher
                        Yeah, now that we took care of Iraq.
                        It was basically unconnected with Iraq; but I guess you don't read any of our intelligence reports, which *ALL* confirm this. The connection idea is a mistaken notion by a non-intelligence person which Wolfowitz latched onto and got the President to start thinking too. It has no basis in reality.

                        Al Qaeda was more closely connected to Afghanistan (why didn't you say that?), but still was largely nationless. It is especially nationless now.

                        -Drachasor
                        "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                        • #102
                          Yeah, now that we took care of Iraq.

                          I wasn't aware that Al Qaeda was a state actor. Indeed, I wasn't aware that Al Qaeda and the Iraqi leadership were one and the same...

                          Silly me, I was always under the impression that Al Qaeda, a coalition of terrorist cells, was always a non-state actor... as are virtually all terrorist organizations.
                          B♭3

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                          • #103
                            measures that stop problems though
                            These mesaures were tried and failed. If USA did not nuke Japan in 1945 Japan would kill millions of own and foreighn soldiers in following monthes of conventional war.

                            Oh, right, so if North Korea nuked us we'd go and nuke Japan?
                            Heavy trolling is against apolyton policy. I'll report this poll to You-Know-Who
                            money sqrt evil;
                            My literacy level are appalling.

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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by muxec
                              Heavy trolling is against apolyton policy. I'll report this poll to You-Know-Who
                              I think the Japan comment was a legitimate attempt to expose how ridiculous its it to see an attack on an Arab city in response to an Al-Quaedi attack on America as legitimate.

                              You can't randomly start nuking cities because of the race/religion of the people who live there just because a minority of extremists of that race/religion attack you - other wise why no nuke Japan after a N. Korean attack? Maybe 'East Asian culture' is the cause of north korea's belicosity

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                              • #105
                                Japher,

                                Are you actually one of those people who thinks that Al Qaeda was receiving "aid & comfort" from Saddam?

                                -Arrian
                                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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