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    With Bush's election, with Barroso's attempt to make a new team, and with Arafat's upcoming death, these are interesting times for the EU indeed.

    From the BBC:

    Blair urges EU to accept Bush
    Tony Blair is urging European leaders to wake up from their "state of denial" over President Bush's re-election.

    "America has spoken. The rest of the world should listen," the prime minister says in an interview with The Times newspaper, published on Friday.

    Mr Blair also admitted he had gone to bed at 2230GMT, well before the polls closed, thinking Mr Kerry may have won.

    He woke up at 0530GMT to discover Mr Bush had won but declined to say if he was pleased with the eventual result.

    Some people were in "a sort of state of denial", he told The Times, predicting a more "receptive mood" soon.

    Mr Blair, who is in Brussels for a two-day summit with fellow European leaders, said America needed to listen to the world too.

    "The fact is that President Bush is there for four years. He is there because the American people have chosen him," Mr Blair says in the interview.

    The fact is that President Bush is there for four years. He is there because the American people have chosen him
    Prime minister Tony Blair

    He also makes clear he intends to take seriously what he perceives as his role in bringing the two continents together.

    'UK is uniquely placed'

    Britain is "uniquely placed" to make out the common ground because of its strong alliance with the US, he suggests.

    Mr Blair gave the interview before leaving for the meeting of the European Council in Belgium where leaders are due to agree a five-year asylum and immigration plan.

    The prime minister joined the summit on Thursday to discuss plans aimed at streamlining the issue.

    He recently said the UK would only participate in EU-wide action where it was in UK interests but the Tories say he is surrendering a key veto.

    Streamlining

    Mr Blair says Britain will retain sovereign control over national borders because it only needs to opt into the EU measures it likes.

    He also claims pooling decision-making in a 25-nation EU will streamline rules affecting asylum and immigration.

    The leaders gathered in Brussels will also assess progress on the economic reform plans agreed in Lisbon in 2000 to make Europe more competitive.

    Iraqi interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi is also travelling to the summit on Friday as the leaders agree a new aid package for his war-torn country.


    From the BBC:
    Iraq overshadows EU summit
    French President Jacques Chirac has decided to leave an EU summit just before a meeting with interim Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi.

    Mr Allawi is due to join EU leaders as guest of honour at the summit lunch in the Belgian capital.

    Mr Chirac, an outspoken critic of the war in Iraq, said he had prior engagements and would not attend.

    But he described French links with Iraqi officials as "excellent" and said he had never refused to meet Mr Allawi.

    Meanwhile, UK Prime Minister Tony Blair has said some EU leaders are in a "state of denial" over President Bush's poll win.

    He urged European leaders to accept President George Bush's re-election, in an interview with London's Times newspaper.

    'Spectator countries'

    Correspondents say Mr Chirac's move is seen as a clear snub to Mr Allawi, who has called for broader involvement in Iraq.

    America has spoken. The rest of the world should listen
    UK Prime Minister Tony Blair

    Mr Allawi has implored so-called "spectator countries" to become actively involved in the reconstruction of Iraq.

    Dutch Foreign Minister Bernard Bot, whose country holds the rotating EU presidency, denied that there was any snub by President Chirac.

    The French leader is to fly to the United Arab Emirates on Friday to express condolences over the death on Tuesday of its founding leader, Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan al-Nahyan.

    "I think that what we should do is look towards the future, forget about the past," Mr Bot told reporters.

    But the open split in EU ranks over the Iraq war risks being reopened on Friday, the BBC's European affairs correspondent William Horsley reports from Brussels.

    The EU is due to approve a package of aid for training Iraqi election officials, lawyers and police, but it is worth only 30 million euros ($39m) - a small sum by Europe's standards.

    Two more members of the US-led coalition in Iraq, the Netherlands and Hungary, this week announced plans to withdraw their troops quite soon after the Iraqi elections, planned for January.

    Mr Allawi, on a European tour, made his plea for wider participation in his country after a meeting with Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi in Rome on Thursday.
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  • #2
    Gotta love the Chirac's style diplomacy. Allawy is the guest star of a very important European Summit (an event that happens only twice a year), marked by the necessity of change in our foreign policies. And what does he do? He ostensibly leaves when Allawi arrives. All Europeans (and Allawi) have noticed it.

    But in order to prove how much France loves Iraq, the French diplomacy tries to make-up for the blunder, by inviting the Iraqi President in France... but not the Prime Minister (Allawi).

    Really, in the current context, it is obvious Iraq will become a client State of the US with little autonomy (or an unstable hellhole with which it's impossible to do business). You just don't alienate the American stooge there with obvious blunders
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    • #3
      I also love how the EU has been unanimous to send a whooping extra 30 million € in aid to Iraq. It really shows our unanimous support to the nation of Iraq now.

      In completely unrelated news, I've heard today the French government will give 250 mil. € to modernize Corsica's (pop 200,000) railroad
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Spiffor
        I also love how the EU has been unanimous to send a whooping extra 30 million € in aid to Iraq. It really shows our unanimous support to the nation of Iraq now.

        In completely unrelated news, I've heard today the French government will give 250 mil. € to modernize Corsica's (pop 200,000) railroad
        I thought that Corsica was part of France? How is this foreign aid?
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        • #5
          Semi-autonomous region?
          Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
            I thought that Corsica was part of France? How is this foreign aid?
            It's not foreign aid, Corsica is indeed part of France.

            It's just amusing to see how cheap we Europeans are when me make flagship policies showing we are in grand agreement.

            I mean, the whole of the EU makes a symbol of an extra 30 mil. € aid for a country of 27 million inhabitants. That's eight times fewer than an ordinary decision taken by one country to help a severely underpopulated area on one economic issue.

            I just wanted to show how much of a drop in the ocean this Great Symbol Of Unity (those 30 million €) were
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            • #7
              Of course we accept Bush, as sincerely as he accepts us. We have just to avoid subjects of desagreement such as Darwin, God in politics, Iraq, multilateralism, UN, and a few others. I see no problem in that.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Spiffor

                It's not foreign aid, Corsica is indeed part of France.

                It's just amusing to see how cheap we Europeans are when me make flagship policies showing we are in grand agreement.

                I mean, the whole of the EU makes a symbol of an extra 30 mil. € aid for a country of 27 million inhabitants. That's eight times fewer than an ordinary decision taken by one country to help a severely underpopulated area on one economic issue.

                I just wanted to show how much of a drop in the ocean this Great Symbol Of Unity (those 30 million €) were
                You commie you have no respect for our money so difficultly earned!
                Statistical anomaly.
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                • #9
                  Blair is such a brown-nosed buttlicker. And Chirac is such a diplomatic genius! European leaders at their best.

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                  • #10
                    Ack, I'm sure a Rumsfeld visit would settle things.
                    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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                    • #11
                      Ah yes, how could Rumsfeld miss such a great day for diplomacy?
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                      • #12
                        Well, whatever you think of Blair, I have to give him compliments for being the person to attempt bridge the alliance back together
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #13
                          Ted, most of the posters in this thread do not want to see the alliance bridged back together.
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                          • #14


                            Why not?
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #15
                              Actually, most political leaders want the alliance to be bridged back together. Many people (probably most) also want the gap to be healed, although I don't see them want an alliance as integrated as during the cold war.

                              The question is about the concessions each side is willing to give for the reconciliation. Blair basically says we Euros should take the whole piss. It's probably the most pragmatic thing to do, but I don't see Chirac and his DeGaullian delusions accept such a deal.
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