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  • #46
    Originally posted by Boshko
    All my little Korean elementary kids are sad that Bush won. How dare he make the poor little kids sad
    Just remind them that Bush winning helps mighty Korea rise again Korea will be a fine, strong, and rich component of the New Chinese Empire
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    • #47
      After North Korea bombs the ever-loving sh*t out of the South with their nukes, that is.
      The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

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      • #48
        Yeah, we should have told the French and the rest of the Europeans who helped us to f off when they saved our azzes from destruction.


        We did tell them to f off, right after the war was over. We were smart enough back then to know that the French were only in it for themselves and didn't really give a **** about our best interests. Why can't you figure that out today, with centuries more evidence to back it up?

        All my little Korean elementary kids are sad that Bush won. How dare he make the poor little kids sad


        I'm glad I live in a sane country. No one here seems to really care about who won, which is as it should be...
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Berzerker
          Sorry folks, while I didn't support Bush or Kerry, I'm not interested in letting foreigners decide our fate. Hell, I don't even like it when my countrymen use "democracy" to decide my fate.
          Do you mean that in the sense of trading necessities to us?

          Do you mean that in the sense of cooperating with us on international efforts?

          Oh, you must mean our desire to mess up the planet via global warming, increase terrorism, and increasing our national debt ever higher.

          Did you somehow miss the fact that humans are social animals and need to live and work together?

          -Drachasor
          "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
            I'm always amazed at how my fellow countrymen can think that America is the bad guy for telling obviously corrupt regimes like those in France and Russia to "f-off" in order to topple a totalitarian regime that was bribing the very countries we gave the finger to...
            Are you talking about the House of Saud?
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            • #51
              No, China. Best watch out, you commie bastards...
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              • #52
                I didn't vote for Bush. I'm a bad Republican. I'm also a rare, dying breed of Republican — a social moderate and fiscal conservative. I despise what the Republican Party has become — socially reactionary and fiscally irresponsible to the nth degree.

                That said, I also despise some of the crap I hear coming out Europe and other parts of the world. Hey, folks, I did my part and voted for the men and women who I thought would be the best for my nation. Some won, but most lost. That's goddamn life. Don't use it as an excuse to condemn every "Red State" American or every Republican because a good number of Democrats crossed the party line as well, and voted for Bush or some other reactionary-type Republican.

                Insofar as I'm concerned, America isn't the only nation growing more reactionary. The nations of Europe and Latin America are following the same path, albeit with a different label. The Middle East? Hell, they've been reactionary ever since Genghis Khan ruined their golden age. And if nations growing more reactive isn't enough, then you've got a fair number of amoral trans-national corporations edging onto the playing field and doing their bit of schtick for a buck, a euro, a pound, a yen and so on, regardless of the long-term cost to humanity or the world upon which we live.

                In other words, folks, the reactionaries are taking over the planet, not just America. Some of us just can't face that reality yet. The moderates like me? We're history. We're a dying breed. This world is no longer our world. Enjoy it, reactionaries. You earned it. I'm just hoping enough moderates survive the insanity to eventually rebuild what's left after the reactionaries are done bringing down everything that was good.

                Heh. Yeah, I'm just a bit jaded about humanity right now. Just a teensy, tiny bit. It doesn't show, does it?

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                • #53
                  Again, Kerry was the reactionary in this election, not Bush.

                  edit: In terms of foreign policy, that is...
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                  • #54
                    OzzyKP pretty much summed up how I feel about this whole thing. I just hope that Bush doesn't muck up things too much and we'll try again in 4 years.
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                    • #55
                      Insofar as I'm concerned, America isn't the only nation growing more reactionary. The nations of Europe and Latin America are following the same path, albeit with a different label.
                      Eh?

                      These are the same Latin American countries that are drifting left? The same European countries that are giving up on centuries of ethnic chauvinism to form the EU. The same countries that are in the process of supporting gay rights.

                      Only the US is really drifting right. You are profoundly out of step with the rest of the world.
                      Only feebs vote.

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                      • #56
                        No one is expecting America to sit back and let the rest of us decide what you should do and how you should do it. But we do expect you to be fair and reasonable and to at least listen to what we have to say about it before you make decisions that affect us. It's not about letting other people decide your fate, it's about common courtesy, really.

                        As for the election, I'm not mad about the result. I'll admit that I was a little surprised and somewhat disappointed, but if Bush is the leader the American people want, then Bush is the leader they should have. Fair enough. It's called democracy, and although it might not always give us the best solutions right away, it's generally better than any of the alternatives.

                        Hey, at least this time Bush won because he actually got the most votes, so we do have some progress here.

                        Now, for Europe's reaction, our overall sentiment is that this is both bad for Europe and good for Europe. It's bad because if Bush continues his standing policy of only listening to those who agree with him, the gap between us and America will be likely to widen. At the same time it can be good for Europe because when we Europeans cooperate less with the US, we tend to cooperate more and better with each other. So, it can pull us all together in a way nothing else has for some time now.

                        As for the world outside of US and Europe, we are concerned…

                        Bush has already said he plans to remove Castro in his next term. We wonder who's next and how many more regime changes he is brewing on. A lot of people seem to think 4 more years with Bush means 4 more years of war and division.

                        I guess time will show…
                        "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
                        -- Saddam Hussein

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                        • #57
                          Its not about letting them decide our fate, its about being friends, and caring what others think about us.
                          We listen to them, we don't invade Iraq. We don't listen, we invade... Regardless of whether or not invading Iraq was a good move or not, we should be the ones to decide.

                          Do you mean that in the sense of trading necessities to us?

                          Do you mean that in the sense of cooperating with us on international efforts?

                          Oh, you must mean our desire to mess up the planet via global warming, increase terrorism, and increasing our national debt ever higher.
                          You forgot the kitchen sink. They had their chance to cooperate, they chose to let us fight the war. They chose to let us stop the Serbs too.

                          Did you somehow miss the fact that humans are social animals and need to live and work together?
                          Sorry, I don't socialise with any Europeans except for Poly. Most of Europe didn't lift a finger to help us so working together seems to be one-sided.

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                          • #58
                            As for the British and Tony Blair, observers over here are saying that the re-election of Bush is very bad news for Tony Blair. Ever since WW II, Britain has traditionally been very close to the US, and Blair had a good time working with Clinton. However, his strong support for Bush has on occasion brought Tony Blair close to political suicide. Kerry might have relieved Blair, but now he has to deal with Bush for another term.
                            "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
                            -- Saddam Hussein

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                            • #59
                              But we do expect you to be fair and reasonable and to at least listen to what we have to say about it before you make decisions that affect us. It's not about letting other people decide your fate, it's about common courtesy, really.
                              Read up on the oil for food scandal at the UN and then tell us about common courtesy. And yes, France, Russia, and maybe more were screwing with the sanctions they agreed to impose on Iraq. There's cooperation for ya...

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Berzerker

                                We listen to them, we don't invade Iraq. We don't listen, we invade... Regardless of whether or not invading Iraq was a good move or not, we should be the ones to decide.
                                Right. No one else should try to influence you in any way, but you and you alone should be the ones to decide the fate of other nations.

                                Well, that's the kind of arrogance that almost has us thinking it's okay for people to attack the US...
                                "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
                                -- Saddam Hussein

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