Emotional reaction to the US electoral result

[MrFun]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
The US lost its greatness somewhere around 1950. It's all been masturbation since then...

Some historians would argue that United States began its decline with President Johnson, during the Vietnam War.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Dissident


military: anytime from 1945 to 2004. We still have the greatest military in the world. In terms of raw power, 1991 would be the greatest point.

Economically: in the 90's during the tech boom
Technologically: 60's

Relative to the rest of the planet american economic dominance has been on the decline for 40 years

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by MrFun



Some historians would argue that United States began its decline with President Johnson, during the Vietnam War.

America lost its soul before that.

Spme would say sold it.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Ted Striker


Nah, in 1945 the Soviets were still a formidable force, even with nukes.

In 1999 there was absolutley nobody on the planet that could stop us.

Culturally we also owned the world in 1999, and most people generally liked us.

Now everybody hates us, our military is tied down in Iraq, and our global economic dominance keeps shrinking.

the Soviets were crap. We could have rolled over them easily . Well maybe not easily, but they were in poor condition.

[Drake Tungsten]

In 1999 there was absolutley nobody on the planet that could stop us.

Excluding Russia, China, France, the UK and any other country that can nuclearly deter us, that is...

[MrFun]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


America lost its soul before that.

Spme would say sold it.

Well, I disagree but since you're a Canadian, it's all good.

[Ted Striker]

I don't count 1945-1950 as part of the economic trend because it was an outlier event due the rest of the world existing in an economic vaccuum.

[Dis]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


Relative to the rest of the planet american economic dominance has been on the decline for 40 years

perhaps. I was thinking more in terms of raw assets.

[KrazyHorse]

The pie is getting bigger. Having a smaller percentage of a bigger pie is a loss of relative power...

[Kull]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse

Have fun in never never land...

The occupant of never-never land is he who won't recognise reality when it slaps him in the face.

Argue all you want about whether their nation is in decline or on the rise - the Patrician (Republican) citizens of Rome (USA) don't give a fig for the opinions and feelings of the effete intellectual citizenry of Ancient Greece (Europe/Canada). Rome will exercise power when and where we see fit, and there are none to say us nay.

React in laughter or horror as you see fit, it is what it is.

[Tingkai]

Re: Re: Veni, vidi, vici

Originally posted by Dissident

At which point - equally inevitably - we'll be wiped out by some nasty barbarians who are shockingly devoid of moral compunctions

sounds about right. the question is, who are these barbarians?

Canadians, of course.

We will sweep down from the north, riding our faithful polar bears. With hockey sticks held high, we will cut a deadly swathe through the bible belt of America, dealing out punishing body checks to the soft fat underbelly of America.

Your cities will fall and igloos will rise in their place. We will loot Washington, and burn the White House, again.

We will demolish the very core of American culture. Every McDonalds will become a Harvey's. Every KFC will be renewed as a Swiss Chalet. Every Dunkin Donuts will become a shrine to Tim Hortons.

No one will be able to stop us, and anyone who tries will be forced into re-education camps and forced to listen to CBC Radio 24 hours a day.

Repent now or be buried beneath a hail of pucks!

America, you have been warned!

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

In 1999 there was absolutley nobody on the planet that could stop us.

Excluding Russia, China, France, the UK and any other country that can nuclearly deter us, that is...

Russia 1945 was a bigger deterrent than Russia 1999


UK doesn't count since they are friends and France either since they are France

[Drake Tungsten]

Not that I'm accepting your points, but what about China?

[Urban Ranger]

Schadenfreude.

Great word. I should remember it.

[Sikander]

I realized as soon as the Dems selected Kerry that we were screwed. So I've had plenty of time to to accept that fact and calm myself. Since the election I've been enjoying a little bit of local schadenfruede, as the town I live in is obnoxiously liberal and it's good for it to get a reality check from time to time. They just can't believe that everyone didn't vote for Kerry. After all everyone they knew voted for him.

But I voted for constipated. That steak I had for dinner is still holding on for dear life.