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  • #31
    Originally posted by DanS


    I wonder how realistically the media in their own countries portrayed the race. Did they spend their time blowing smoke up their readers'/viewers' asses or did they give the straight dope?
    No idea.

    I think the puzzlement is in "how could they have voted for him" as opposed to "we were told Kerry was going to take it in a landslide" though.
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    • #32
      It totally misses the underlying thread of Bush's campaign. Basically, he said...

      "Kerry is not one of you. He does not share your values. He is part of the Northeast liberal establishment that is trying to force its views on you."

      I expect Europeans to be totally baffled by this.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #33
        Frustrated

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


          DanS made my point for me on Eisenhower.

          Though you raise an interesting point.

          Will Dubya be the Roosevelt for the right?

          Will people fifty years from now, vote for the party of Dubya? Will they be called Dubya Republicans?
          More like the modern era Millard Filmore.

          In 50 years, people will think the Dubya stood for "What in hell were they thinking?"
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          • #35
            Originally posted by DanS
            It totally misses the underlying thread of Bush's campaign. Basically, he said...

            "Kerry is not one of you. He does not share your values. He is part of the Northeast liberal establishment that is trying to force its views on you."

            I epect Europeans to be totally baffled by this.
            Funny though, in that the Bushies seem so obsessed with things like the Fudgepacker Amendment and legislating "values" at the Federal level.
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            • #36
              I'll go with "Schadenfreude"

              The Republicans only have down, down, down to go from here. And they'll drag the USAmerican people with them. The resultant anger and resentment against their party will last for decades.
              The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

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              • #37
                Genuinely amused by thread idea.

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                • #38
                  MtG: I notice that you don't seem to disagree that Bush's message was the one I identified.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #39
                    And my point is that if they watched CNN (the real version, not the weenie international version) they'd understand a lot more.

                    There are a lot of people in the US who are social conservatives. Who are religious fundamentalists. Who are afraid of big-city "liberals". The supposed liberal media does display this a lot better than any foreign media does.
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • #40
                      Oh, OK. In that narrow sense, I agree with you.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #41
                        Well, I feel lots of emotions. I think I got pissed off and relieved when hearing the concession speech. Pissed off because Kerry tried to convince us to get behind Bush, and relieved that I didn't vote for either of them.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                        • #42
                          I'm trying to say that there's a disconnect across the Atlantic right now. In fact, I think there's a social disconnect in America. A lot of the places that voted for Kerry take stances on social issues which are a hell of a lot closer to most of Western Europe than they are to Bush country.

                          There's a real problem right now that the US is going to have to resolve.
                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by DanS
                            MtG: I notice that you don't seem to disagree that Bush's message was the one I identified.
                            No, I agree that was the message he sold - I just think it's ironic that the party of legislatively imposing social values would reach out to the part of the electorate in favor of legislating social values and say the other guy is going to impose his values.


                            I think a lot of those northeastern Yankees ought to be having second thoughts on whatever in hell they thought was wrong with the notion of secession, anyway.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                              Who wanted to sit down and have a pow-wow? All I've been interested in is concentrating on the right rag... er, um, targets, instead of half-assedly spreading ourselves too thin.

                              And we really don't want those people democratic unless we can guarantee that they'll elect our boys. Democracy is a nice buzzword until you get a strategically important democratic country that is hostile to US interests and policies. If that happens, then, well, you have to give them a little more democracy until they get it right.
                              Hard to argue with that statement...other than to say that I believe that you were in the minority of the anti-Bush crowd.
                              "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                              • #45
                                I went through denial, anger and bargain already...

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