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  • Originally posted by Asher
    Space is finite, and since the French requirement is patently ridiculous outside of New Brunswick and Quebec, it should not apply at all.

    I don't want both -- I don't want things in English provinces to be required to have French on them. It's wasteful and it's unnecessary.


    I, for one, like the French labels. They boost my vocabulary. And I'd never look at nutritional info.
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    • Originally posted by Agathon
      There's no such thing as being unCanadian, except perhaps thinking that hockey sucks.


      Hockey sucks. And blows.

      And so does Lacrosse.

      And Curling. That sucks too.
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      • Originally posted by Agathon
        Not liking the Federation can't be unCanadian, since it is the #1 sport of all the provinces other than Ontario.


        What's the #1 Ontario sport? Basketball?
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        • Originally posted by Oncle Boris
          Would I, personally, hand over these flags? Yes. Is it a big deal that they won't? NO.
          The veterans who risked their lives, the relatives of those who died, and those of us with respect for what those men did think it is a big deal that, out of policy, a federal political party will refuse to provide flags to help commemorate those who fought and died for our freedom.

          It is tasteless and lunacy, and I am not surprised in the slightest that the average person from Quebec does not understand that. It's true that they are of a different society -- one that is completely unappreciative of Canada's history, actions, and efforts. One that is undeserved of all of the special treatment and recognition and money that they get.
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          • Originally posted by Kuciwalker
            Actually, it's definately the BQ. When your constituents ask you to do something as harmless as handing out flags, and you refuse out of some stupid ideological purity or whatever, you're the one making an issue.
            Not really. People other than the BQ had already made flags a big issue. You can see that in part in the article.
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            • Originally posted by Asher

              The veterans who risked their lives, the relatives of those who died, and those of us with respect for what those men did think it is a big deal that, out of policy, a federal political party will refuse to provide flags to help commemorate those who fought and died for our freedom.

              It is tasteless and lunacy, and I am not surprised in the slightest that the average person from Quebec does not understand that. It's true that they are of a different society -- one that is completely unappreciative of Canada's history, actions, and efforts. One that is undeserved of all of the special treatment and recognition and money that they get.
              You're buying into the same bashing mentality that is regularlly pointed at Alberta. Isn't it about time we stopped playing the game of the federalist media? Stop being divided, and recognise that there are people who stand a lot to gain by having Quebecois and Albertans at each other's throats?

              They're scared ****less. The last time things were calm in the East, Alberta and Quebec got together and put Mulroney in power. Ever since then there has been a determined campaign to split Quebec from the West, and paint Ontario as the moderate, reasonable province.

              Don't you get it? Quebec, Alberta, and BC could name the tune that this country dances to. We are being distracted by flaps about flags.

              Hurumpfff!
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              • Vote patriotic. Vote NDP.
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                • Are you trying to make me change my vote? Patriotism is teh sux0r.
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                  • I am proud of my country and I vote NDP. Don't like it -- vote Bloc.
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                    • Going on in that vein.

                      When Tredeau was prancing around, full of himself, and thinking that he should be the author of our Constitution, who was Leveque's ally against Ottawa?

                      If you say Lougheed and Alberta, you win a beaver pelt.

                      Later on, when the nation had had enough of Liberals, and really needed a change, it was Alberta and Quebec that drove the stake into the heart of the vampire. Unfortunately, the creature lived on in Ontario and the stake was removed. The Liberals revived. They've been revived for 20 years now. How much longer? Do you think Ontario is ever going to toss them? They never have in the past.

                      Alberta and Quebec are natural allies in Confederation. We both want to be left alone to run our own shows. When will we resume acting on that?
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                      • Interesting. The United States of Canada.
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                        • Originally posted by SpencerH
                          Interesting. The United States of Canada.
                          I liked Trudeau BTW. I never voted for him, but he made me laugh. The cabinet members I met (Ministers of Armed Forces) were morons though.
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                          • Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                            Actually, it's definately the BQ. When your constituents ask you to do something as harmless as handing out flags, and you refuse out of some stupid ideological purity or whatever, you're the one making an issue.
                            The local office of the Bloc MP did hand out Canadian flags before, only to be laughed at in the local media because a separatist was promoting Canada.

                            No win situation.
                            What?

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                            • Originally posted by notyoueither

                              Do you think Ontario is ever going to toss them? They never have in the past.

                              Ontario historically voted opposites for provincial and federal elections. Since the Tory 'Big Blue Machine' ruled the province for some 40+ years we usually vote Liberal federally. As you know, we have libs at both levels of gov now so the potential for change is there. Will we switch and go back to the Torys provincially or dump the Liberals in Ottawa? My money is on the former.

                              Alberta and Quebec are natural allies in Confederation. We both want to be left alone to run our own shows. When will we resume acting on that?
                              Soon I hope. I mentioned earlier the sad reality of feds intruding on jurisdiction (indeed several items on the provincial rights list you provided earlier are already in that category...). Our best hope rests with Alberta and Quebec to defend these rights.
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                              • Interesting. The United States of Canada
                                There was a map in the UK papers (which i assume came from the US) about the United States of Canada where the East and West coast 'liberals' (the Kerry Voters) joined Canada. The rest of America was renamed 'Jesusland'.
                                Seemed an interesting idea, if not especially serious, states like New York joining Canada rather than the other way round

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