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I wouldn't call myself uneducated. Just lazy. Why research it, when someone else has already done the research?
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too late. The U.S. is already going down. I'm just a symptom, not the cause.Comment
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You are the biggest ass. It's people like you who have ruined this country.Originally posted by MalevolentLight
People like you are going to be the downfall of the US.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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The rise in oil prices didn't begin until the 4th Q of '90, so I doubt that had anything to do with it. We were due a recession.Originally posted by Ramo
Found one... though it may not be statistically significant.
The Federal minimum wage was increased in 1990 and 1991. If you recall, we went into recession in 1991.
Some fun stuff on it (yes, yes, it's CATO, get it out of your system now.. facts on employment numbers are still facts):
We went into recession in mid-1990. While I guess it's possible that the minimum wage increase of that year had something to do with it, I'm inclined to believe it had to do with the rise in oil prices associated with Iraq's invasion of Kuwait (and tension over the threat of war), the S&L Crisis, inflation hawkish monetary policy, etc.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was when Min Wage went from $3.15 to $3.35. What a ****ing joke that was.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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A communist telling a capitalist he's ruined the country...
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The rise in oil prices didn't begin until the 4th Q of '90, so I doubt that had anything to do with it. We were due a recession.
Hmm.. true. But still, the high oil prices probably contributed significantly to the continuation of the recession."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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You aren't a capitalist. You're just a dumb kid running his mouth off. There are two, maybe three real capitalists on this board. Unless you'r a trust fund baby, you're too stupid to be one of them.Originally posted by MalevolentLight
A communist telling a capitalist he's ruined the country...
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Clinton did a very good job in this regard, and most people just don't know it.Originally posted by Dissident
interesting. one more bump for any further evidence.
Because frankly. Both candidates are equally capable of striking terrorism imho. I don't think a democrat would be stupid enough to act like clinton did again. The real issue is the economy.
Every day he met with advisors to discuss the problem of terrorism, he recognized it was the most important problem facing the nation from outside sources.
Bush didn't meet with advisors every day before 9/11, Bush ignored warnings from Clinton-era advisors that an attack was coming. So while Clinton kept attacks under pretty good control and did strike against terrorists, Bush didn't and 9/11 probably happened because of his administration's refusal to listen to Clinton-era advisors.
Afterall that, for some reason people think Clinton somehow allowed terrorism to happen. Just bear in mind who warned Bush about attacks that were coming, and who allowed 9/11 to happen. For political reasons the 9/11 commision didn't draw any conclusions one way or another, but when you have Rice testifying that a memo which reads "Bin Laden Determined To Attack Within United States" doesn't mean that Bin Laden was determined to attack within the United States, then I think what was going on is pretty clear (and that is but one of many examples).
-Drachasor"If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack ObamaComment
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I know what you mean. Bush is a horrible, horrible liar, as is his administration. He lies more and bigger than Kerry does, and he has the audacity that he won't be caught on it. Apparently he's right.Originally posted by MalevolentLight
You're trying to be educated by apolyton posters. Do I really need to say more? Apparently people don't know how to go out and read about things on their own.
You think Bush is somehow good because he has no fiscal responsiblity, doesn't work with the international community, attacks Iraq without getting more facts than supposition, opposes measures to protect the average American from Big Business (he's against drugs from Canada, doesn't care about the natural environment, etc), along with many other faults.
Apparently you want a horribly debt ridden future for America where we have no true allies because of lack of trust, and Big Business calls most of the shots.
-Drachasor
PS. Bush's 'wonderful' plan to partially privatize S.S. is idiotic because it is unaffordable, we need the money coming in to pay for current benefits, we don't have the cash to give any of it back. I guess another couple trillian dollars of debt means nothing to the Republicans these days. I remember when they were supposedly the party of fiscal responsibility."If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack ObamaComment
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Oh, and I could go into Bush's plans for a "hydrogen" economy...unfortunately you can only get hydrogen economically from oil, methane, natural gas and a few other places.
The only way to really get it in masse that doesn't tie us to oil is to get it from water, but that *costs* energy overall because you put more energy into getting the hydrogen then you get back by using the hydrogen. Yeah, great idea.*
Naturally the "evil" Kerry advocates hybrid technology, which actually does reduce our reliance on oil.
-Drachasor
*It will only work if we used a lot of fission reactors or developed good fusion technology. That or built large solar power stations in space and beamed the power down via microwaves--in other words, not for a good long while."If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack ObamaComment
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Dissident, in a lot of ways Kerry's plans will boost the economy. As this year's Nobel Price in Economics has said, giving the working class tax cuts is the best way to help the economy. It gives them more money to spend, which they immediately will go out and spend. It prompts them to work more because each hour more they work is more money than before and hence it increases their standard of living. Companies benefit because their goods and services are being bought more. Much more immediate than any "trickle-down" economic effect; and much more certain.
Kerry has a large number of effective tax cuts to the working class, all of which he has plans on how to afford. From tax breaks for health care to education aid, all of these effectively decrease the tax burden on the working class.
Anyhow, as far as the minimum wage goes, it wasn't bad at all under Clinton, and this measure just seeks to compensate for the inflation that has occured.
-Drachasor"If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack ObamaComment
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one more thing about Kerry and my state.
He has promised not to bring nuclear waste to my state.
He also has promised not to raise taxes for those making less than $200,000 a year.
He could easily break those promises of course. But if he wants to be re-elected, I don't think he will.
Sure he's is a liberal weenie. But he will be checked by a republican congress. Just like Clinton, I expect him to be more moderate when elected president.
Bush's promise in 2000 was he would use sound science before bringing nuclear waste to my state. You could say ne never broke his promise, but I do not agree with the science. We do not live in a very active earthquake region, but we do have seismic activity. There are 2 states in the union that have no seismic acitivity whatsover, and we aren't one of them. Our weak political power is the main reason nuclear waste is coming to my state (and the fact no one likes deserts). I still say it's not good science to bring nuclear waste to a region that gets earthquakes. Even if they are only 5 magnitude.
Even though I have voted democrat for local posts (such as Harry Reid for senator) I have never voted for a democratic president. Until today that is.
Kerry gets my vote. There is a risk he may ruin things of course. But it's worth that risk, the alternative is more G.W. My vote will be better used voting for Kerry, than a third party candidate. I do live in a swing state, and could decide the next president (if he wins by 1 vote in my state, and my state puts him over 270
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If he breaks his promises then I won't vote for him in 2008, it's just that simple. I can't not vote for a president on the assumption that he's going to break his promises. I didn't do that when I voted for Bush in 2000. And I won't do it now.
The fact is, I am a democrat. I'm just ashamed to admit it. Most of those online surveys seem to indicate this. It's like a weakness. I'm afraid voting democrat will send me into convulsions. But I'm not a liberal, and I'm not a socialist. I'm more of an old school democrat. The environment is very important to me. It's more important to me than some rich people earning another $100,00 a year.
Time to shower, and go to the polls (after a few more minutes of browsing poly)
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To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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some different reasons to vote for Kerry. (not that im sure I will)
In the late 1940's some dems thought that it was necessary for the GOP to take over, to force them to be responsible, to stop sniping at the Cold war from the sidelines (who lost China and all that) and to face up to the real difficulties Cold war policy dilemmas presented.
We may be at that point now. The WOT has to be a national war, and not a GOP war. Its easy to snipe at policies in Iraq, at the failure to capture bin laden, at the Patriot act. It is necessary that a Democrat President face dilemmas of dealing with Musharraf and the Saudis, of hunting for OBL, of dealing with reconstruction in Iraq. That a Dem Attorney General face the prospect of revising the Patriot Act, deciding what parts need to be kept, and then defending that decision. That a Dem Sec of Homeland Security administer the alert system, or scrap and replace it if theres a better one. Tha a Dem foreign policy team ultimately face down those elements, in the US and abroad, that are not reconcilable, that are not supportive of even a more multilateral WOT - as the Eisenhower admin ultimately faced down Joe McCarthy.
I cannot assure you that the above will happen in a Kerry administration, but IF it does, it will be very valuable."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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interesting LOTM
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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