Bush is getting desperate in his campaign.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Liberal really is a dirty word in my neck of the woods and the liberals have no one to blame for that but themselves. Even the liberals acknowledge this fact when they now insist on being called "Progressives" instead of liberals.

Funny. Where I'm from, "liberal" is a friendly term for non-conservative rightwingers, whereas "progressive" is a now-little used term for commies and their ilk.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I ... don't see any evidence that there would be a groundswell of new troops from other countries to replace ours in the event of a Kerry win.

I don't see it either, but it's a hell more likely than the same to happen with Bush still in charge. In the present situation, sending troops would be seen as saying Bush was right.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Oerdin
I know Bush isn't a conservative. That man spends like a crack addict who broke out of rehab.

Oerdin, in another thread, you asked whether I had become unreasonable. Now I have two ask the same question of you?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ned


Oerdin, in another thread, you asked whether I had become unreasonable. Now I have two ask the same question of you?

four words for you Ned:


highest deficit in history

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Liberal really is a dirty word in my neck of the woods and the liberals have no one to blame for that but themselves. Even the liberals acknowledge this fact when they now insist on being called "Progressives" instead of liberals.

Which pisses us real progressives off. Now we have to go find another label.

Liberals have no one to blame but themselves. They should have fought back, instead of letting conservatives tar and feather them for twenty years.

[Last Conformist]

Being associated with the democratic left should be an improvement for commies.

[Ned]

Mr. Fun, and you really a Liberal?

Agree or disagree:


1) Wealth is evil; accumulation of wealth in the hands of a few is per se cruel; the primary purpose of government is to foster "social equality."

2) The source of wealth is private property; property rights must be undermined or abolished by

a heavy progressive income tax;

a confiscatory estate tax;

regulation of rents and profits; and

concentration of means of production in the government.

3) Religion is a means for the wealthy to keep the masses in place and must be abolished or confined. Restraints on personal behavior that are opposed by religion are permitted.

4) The Family is antithetical to the freedom of women; laws must degrade the authority of men in the family and permit women to raise children independent of a family.

[Last Conformist]

The American idea of "liberalism" is getting weirder and weirder ...

[the_ceebs]

Ned I think you've got Liberal and Socialist confused

[MikeH]

To answer negative to all those questions you'd have to be more extreme than most communists not just a liberal.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
No. I think that title is still held by Andrew Johnson.

Yeah, he was a *****. I still think that if impeachment succeeded, today, we'd see it as justified. Though they should have got him for bribery (pardoning former Confederate officers so that he could be friends with them and invited to all the big Southern events and such)... it ain't money exchanging hands, but it doesn't mean it isn't a bribe.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
Being associated with the democratic left should be an improvement for commies.

Maybe if they were actually on the left, instead of only slightly less far to the right as the Republicans.

[MikeH]

The Democrats are a far right party in European terms.

[Ned]

Originally posted by the_ceebs
Ned I think you've got Liberal and Socialist confused

Really. You should listen to the liberals in the US. Just yesterday Gore said something to the effect that concentration of wealth in the hands of the few is cruel. Progressive tax? Liberals favor. Estate tax - the higher the better. Rent control? Why yes! Profit control: a must. What else can one call the effort to control drug prices.

Liberals in the US favor all of the list.

But you would call them socialists. I am not disagreeing.

[MikeH]

It'd be nice if they were. Sadly they are much too right wing.