Bush is getting desperate in his campaign.

[MikeH]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Well, good luck to you, and him.

I'd just feel less worried about the world if Bush wasn't there pissing everyone off and dragging us with him. The world is a much scarier place than it was 4 years ago.

[notyoueither]

That tends to happen in the fall out of major events.

Uncertainty is scary.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by MikeH


Last mile?! It's barely begun.

If all this started for you in the 1980's, you might see a few years as 'the last mile'.

[notyoueither]

I'm amused that everyone thinks Kerry, a man vocal in wanting Saddam gone, would have done things a lot differently.

[Harovan]

Kerry is a bold idiot. Bush is a dangerous idiot. I don't mind America being ruled by an idiot, even more since there seems to be no way to avoid it. But out of pure selfishness as foreigner, I prefer the bold idiot over the dangerous big time.

[MikeH]

Originally posted by notyoueither


If all this started for you in the 1980's, you might see a few years as 'the last mile'.

When we're back to having a US supported Iraq what exactly will have changed since the 80s?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Kerry is a bold idiot. Bush is a dangerous idiot. I don't mind America being ruled by an idiot, even more since there seems to be no way to avoid it. But out of pure selfishness as foreigner, I prefer the bold idiot over the dangerous big time.

You're assuming that Kerry's boldness will not be more dangerous. That's quite an assumption.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by notyoueither
You're assuming that Kerry's boldness will not be more dangerous. That's quite an assumption.

I'm prone to give him a shot. Time will show. Bush has had his shot and missed by a mile.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by MikeH
When we're back to having a US supported Iraq what exactly will have changed since the 80s?

I don't know, maybe a democracy and the lack of mass graves filled with fresh kills of the dictator?

Would that be progress?

[MikeH]

Well we know how dangerous Bush has already been. It'd be insanity to give him another chance.

[notyoueither]

No. We all know how shrill the opposition to Bush has been. There is a difference.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Bush is much worse at what, not being a liberal?

We went through independent and neutral sources tto determine which candidate lied more. Bush came out well ahead of Kerry with not only more lies told but bigger lies.

[MikeH]

Originally posted by notyoueither
No. We all know how shrill the opposition to Bush has been. There is a difference.

Some people are blinkered.

[MikeH]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I don't know, maybe a democracy and the lack of mass graves filled with fresh kills of the dictator?

Would that be progress?

The very same dictator the US was selling weapons to in the 80s?

That would be progress, if that comes of this whole disaster it'd be amazing but we're a long way from that now. (unlike in Afghanistan which seems to be going pretty well)

[Dinner]

I seem to recall the EU & the USSR as being far larger weapons dealers to Saddam then the US. He used Soviet Tanks and French fighter planes and it was German chemical companies who sold him everything needed to make chemical weapons. However, people blame the US.