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  • #121
    Originally posted by notyoueither
    You mean diplomacy like saying 'wrong war, wrong place, wrong time', but we'll get our allies more involved?

    Allies that believe it was a mistake too. Heck, the vast majority of the world believes it was a mistake.

    Believe it or not, you can get people to help you fix a mistake, but you often have to admit it was a mistake first. Certainly this is true in Iraq, as they will never go in if it means they will seemingly be supporting the Bushian pre-emption and lack of planning/political considerations policies.

    You have to be able to talk to and work with your allies. It takes time, patience, and respect. Bush doesn't have any of this.

    Oh, and are you conceding all of my other points?

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    • #122
      No, I just like this one most.

      You mean it takes time, patience, and respect to make the Iraqis feel as if they don't have legitimate representatives and never will with the Yanks around?

      I wonder how Kerry makes Karzai feel?

      With allies like that, one needs fewer enemies... to be dead.

      The man is a walking international disaster. Bush may have upset apple carts, Kerry has no clue that what he says is listened to outside of focus groups.

      I think the guy has to be dumber than a sack of hammers.
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      • #123
        The idea that Kerry's comments are upsetting the international community are just made up by the Bush camp. We love that he admits the blindingly obvious fact that it was the wrong war in the wrong place and wants to get the international community involved. His comments on needing to combat terrorism through improved intelligence gathering monitoring, surveilance and counter terrorism rather than massive land wars that stir up anti-west hatred and increase terrorist recruitment are just plain common sense.
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        • #124
          Heh. You love it. Let me tell you, it does not make any Canadians lean any further towards sending anything to get yours and the Yanks asses out of the sling. Quite the reverse.

          In short? The guy's a moron of major proportions.

          Oh, and believing a democrat that he won't invade anything is like believing in Santa Claus.
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          • #125
            Who cares about Canada? I'm talking about major international players.
            Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
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            • #126
              HARR HARR HARR
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              • #127
                Anyway I'm perfectly aware of Kerry's many shortcomings but he can't possibly alienate the international community as much as Bush, it's just not possible.
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                • #128
                  You think or you hope?
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                  • #129
                    Maybe you underestimate how much Bush's administration is disliked outside North America? Which is incredible considering the support they had around the world in the wake of 9/11.
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                    • #130
                      Maybe. I just don't see it improving with Kerry. The guy is a disaster that can be seen coming.

                      He honestly thinks he can slag the war in Iraq as a bad idea and a huge mess, and then get others to send help? To what? Suicide, the way he tells it.

                      The only thing I see him doing is setting up an escape from Iraq. **** the people. **** democracy and the ME. Get us the **** out of there, right now.

                      It makes me sick to think that Iraqis went through all that they went through, and that now in the last mile some panty waist from Mass is gonna throw them to the wolves.
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                      • #131
                        I don't underestimate it, I just believe Bush is still better than Kerry.
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                        • #132
                          If Kerry pulls, it'll be Somalia all over again.
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • #133
                            Originally posted by notyoueither
                            Maybe. I just don't see it improving with Kerry. The guy is a disaster that can be seen coming.

                            He honestly thinks he can slag the war in Iraq as a bad idea and a huge mess, and then get others to send help? To what? Suicide, the way he tells it.
                            Yes, I think that him saying "Sorry, we (well that twot who was here before me) totally ****ed this place up - you were all totally right about what would happen - but now we really need your help to sort this mess out..." would work.
                            Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
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                            • #134
                              Well, good luck to you, and him.
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                              • #135
                                Originally posted by notyoueither
                                It makes me sick to think that Iraqis went through all that they went through, and that now in the last mile some panty waist from Mass is gonna throw them to the wolves.
                                Last mile?! It's barely begun.
                                Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                                Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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