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    Price of gas no longer a political issue in US?

    Here the price of oil is $53/bbl and the price of gas is about $2/gallon (I would be interested in hearing how much it costs in your neck of the woods). In the past, this would be the death knell for a president's popularity. But this year, it's hardly mentioned in a very close presidential campaign.

    What's changed in the US body politic? Has it been that Kerry just hasn't brought up the issue because of one reason or the other? Or it might be that $2/gallon isn't quite as expensive as it used to be (because of inflation and higher wages)? Or perhaps it's that people believe that a president doesn't have much impact on the price of gasoline?
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    Good question, not really sure of the answer though.

    Gas is approx. 2.50-3.50 a gallon (US) in eastern Ontario. It can be around 3.50 - 4.00 a gallon in the Maritimes. Gas prices are still comparatively cheap in the US, although I remember getting .89 cents/gallon in the Boston about 5 years back. Those were the days.

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    • #3
      In the range of 1.88/gallon here in TX.

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      • #4
        Here it's been hovering around $1.75, give or take ten cents, for the past few years. Now it's up to $2.00, but that's only a quarter difference (nevermind that it's a dollar difference from a decade ago), so nobody does more than moan a bit -- it's like when they raised the price of stamps from 34 cents to 37 cents nobody gave a damn, but if they'd raised it from 25 cents to 37 cents then there'd've been be blood in the street.
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        • #5
          Around 80p per litre here though I haven't looked lately. I'll let you do the conversions .
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          • #6
            It's likely that it's not expensive, seemingly. Our corporation was concerned that rising fuel costs would make our labor expenses increase, but we've found that not to be the case.

            Go figure.

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            • #7
              It's not expensive enough whatever the cost, even here where it's an order of magnitude more expensive than the US or other parts of Europe. My reasons? I dont drive, so I want to save the world.
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              • #8
                I have a conspiracy theory that some oil producers are trying to leverage the price of oil to defeat GWB. It's hugely not in the mainline producers' interests to have oil at $53/bbl, so why is it that price? Thing is, it doesn't seem to be having any impact on the race.

                Look to see the price of oil plummet come November...
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #9
                  In terms of real dollar prices gas has never been more expensive then know. At least not that I can remember. I think it briefly got to the $2.50-$3 in 1991 but that was only for a week or two then Bush Sr. opened up the SPR and prices fell.

                  In absolute terms the price was higher in the early 1980's and during both of the Arab oil embargos. Of course the really big problem is that no new refineries have been built in the US since the mid 1970's. The enviromental laws prevent new refinaries from being built and that's part of the reason I must now pay $2.70 per gallon in Southern California.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
                    Good question, not really sure of the answer though.

                    Gas is approx. 2.50-3.50 a gallon (US) in eastern Ontario. It can be around 3.50 - 4.00 a gallon in the Maritimes. Gas prices are still comparatively cheap in the US, although I remember getting .89 cents/gallon in the Boston about 5 years back. Those were the days.
                    I can remember gas in California falling to $0.59 per gallon around 1993. It didn't last long but it was good while it lasted.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Whaleboy
                      Around 80p per litre here though I haven't looked lately. I'll let you do the conversions .
                      Thats around $5.75/gallon. Holy Christ!

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                      • #12
                        About $4.60 of that is duty.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn


                          Thats around $5.75/gallon. Holy Christ!
                          Our cars waste far less fuel than American types. At least there's an incentive here for car companies to look for cleaner combustion of gas and whatever happens in the process.
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                            In terms of real dollar prices gas has never been more expensive then know. At least not that I can remember. I think it briefly got to the $2.50-$3 in 1991 but that was only for a week or two then Bush Sr. opened up the SPR and prices fell.
                            I think you mean that real prices have been higher in the past but that absolute prices are the highest ever.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #15
                              this is what I'm pissed about.

                              The Iraq war was about oil. Yet we have less now than ever.

                              I'm perfectly willing to sacrifice thousands of lives to get my gas prices down to about $1.00 a gallon. but that hasn't happen. We are paying $2.30 where I live.

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