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  • #31
    OOOH LETS PUNISH TERESA FOR HAVING AN OPINION! WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE THINKING! UNLESS ITS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE ME A PIE!
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #32
      Like all of Kerry's campaingn slogans, what the Saudi Arabain oil free thing is missing is the all important "how" section.
      Not only that, but whether or not the US is totally independent of ME oil is irrelevant as well a unrealistic. Since oil is a global commodity, we would have to have all of our allies, friends, and big trading partners (i.e., pretty much everybody on this globe) independent of ME oil as well.

      OOOH LETS PUNISH TERESA FOR HAVING AN OPINION! WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE THINKING! UNLESS ITS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE ME A PIE!
      If her opinions are indefensible, she shouldn't offer her opinions for public consumption.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #33
        It's not like they will stop selling oil to USA because they don't like you
        So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
        Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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        • #34
          Japher, yeah but at least he has the balls to say it
          In da butt.
          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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          • #35
            Ollie: Actually, they would. The US and Saudi Arabia came up with a grand bargain at the beginning of the oil embargo. We would respect their ownership of the fields and not take them over through force, and they would sell to us at reasonable market prices.

            We don't know if any future Saudi regimes would honor such a bargain, even if there are certainly huge non-military pressures for them to supply everybody.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #36
              Originally posted by DanS
              If her opinions are indefensible, she shouldn't offer her opinions for public consumption.
              That's right... nobody should have opinions that doesn't agree with yours.

              freedom of speech is for commiedirtyliberals and dumbwomen!
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #37
                Do you have anything of value to offer to this discussion?
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sava
                  OOOH LETS PUNISH TERESA FOR HAVING AN OPINION! WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE THINKING! UNLESS ITS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE ME A PIE!
                  OOH LET'S MAKE A STRAWMAN AND POST IN ALL CAPS
                  "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                  Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DanS
                    Do you have anything of value to offer to this discussion?
                    Do you?

                    You know, people on the right tell me that George Bush isn't a liar because I can't PROVE what he knew and didn't know.

                    Well, PROVE to me that George Bush's motive for this war WASN'T OIL, and your criticism of Teresa will be valid. If not, shut your pie hole and leave the anti-kerry whining to the likes of Fez and Diplomat.

                    just for the record, however, I don't believe oil was the key motivation in going to war in Iraq... but I defend Teresa's (or anyone elses) right to speak their beliefs on the matter.
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sava
                      OOOH LETS PUNISH TERESA FOR HAVING AN OPINION! WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE THINKING! UNLESS ITS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE ME A PIE!
                      OMFGG!! TEH BUSH SCREWED UP AGIN> GIVIN DA VOTE TO DME STOOOPID AFGHANI WOMEN WHO SHOULD BE MAKIN US PIES!!

                      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


                        OMFGG!! TEH BUSH SCREWED UP AGIN> GIVIN DA VOTE TO DME STOOOPID AFGHANI WOMEN WHO SHOULD BE MAKIN US PIES!!

                        and if you think that things in Afghanistan are going to change the way Bush's says it is, then I've got a bridge to sell you.
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sava

                          just for the record, however, I don't believe oil was the key motivation in going to war in Iraq... but I defend Teresa's (or anyone elses) right to speak their beliefs on the matter.
                          Spot On! I likewise defend anyone rights to refer to her as a pompous nutbag for espousing ludicrous statements.
                          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • #43
                            This thread has quickly degenerated into dumb arguments and spam.
                            "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                            Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                            • #44
                              Yummy!
                              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                              • #45
                                Well, PROVE to me that George Bush's motive for this war WASN'T OIL, and your criticism of Teresa will be valid.
                                The NPV of the income stream from the Iraqi oil is hugely negative, when the costs of military action are factored in.

                                Even assuming it was about oil, my argument still stands.

                                but I defend Teresa's (or anyone elses) right to speak their beliefs on the matter
                                And I have a right to point out that she is being naive in the extreme at best and lying at worst.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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