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  • #16
    Kerry's wife is right. Kerry will never defend American national interests so long as oil is involved.
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    • #17
      Actually, I believe what she said was that Kerry would never wage a war FOR oil-which is different.

      Again Ned, as I have told DanS, It's NEVER, EVER about oil..its always about sweet, sweet O..Freedom.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by GePap
        Actually, I believe what she said was that Kerry would never wage a war FOR oil-which is different.

        Again Ned, as I have told DanS, It's NEVER, EVER about oil..its always about sweet, sweet O..Freedom.
        Not true. There are dictators and oppression all over the planet. We can't go around fixing everything. But we have an obligation to act when we are attacked, directly or indirectly. Kuwait was one such attack.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ned


          Not true. There are dictators and oppression all over the planet. We can't go around fixing everything. But we have an obligation to act when we are attacked, directly or indirectly. Kuwait was one such attack.
          Look at what Bush I said about that war-its always about the Freedom of Kuwaitis and the need to stop a powermad despot. Oil is rarely mentioned in the press bits.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by GePap
            Look at what Bush I said about that war-its always about the Freedom of Kuwaitis and the need to stop a powermad despot. Oil is rarely mentioned in the press bits.
            It was mentioned in his speech to Congress. We went over there in 1990 to protect American interests.

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            • #21
              Re: Kerry will never send troops overseas for oil...

              Originally posted by DanS

              Besides the mistaken implication that we are in Iraq primarily for oil, doesn't this strike y'all as a little naive and a dangerous thing to say? What happens if a revolution happens in Saudi Arabia and the spigot gets turned off? Could happen.

              Also, we have our sailors, especially, all over the world becase of the dictates of the oil trade. Is Heinz Kerry repudiating this long standing policy?


              It's a bit naive to say that we are not in Iraq for oil.
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              • #22
                Erm, no, it isn't.
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                • #23
                  But one thing I do like about Kerry's theme's is to be independent from Saudi oil. I think that's a good thing, and should be a goal for any president.
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                  • #24
                    Drill in ANWR
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                    • #25
                      Kerry will never send troops overseas for oil...
                      Even if it passes the "Global Test"?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Jaguar
                        Erm, no, it isn't.
                        It is when a high ranking member of the administration has already admitted it.
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                        • #27
                          Kerry's just saying that, Pekka... he can't make it happen
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cruddy


                            It is when a high ranking member of the administration has already admitted it.
                            Do we really think that a war with a 200 billion dollar price tag is going to help us economically?
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Cruddy


                              It is when a high ranking member of the administration has already admitted it.
                              I call bull****.
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                              • #30
                                Obviously when waging a war over a large oil field oil will be an issue no matter how you initially got there.

                                Oil was one of many motivations, and not one of the larger ones.

                                Like all of Kerry's campaingn slogans, what the Saudi Arabain oil free thing is missing is the all important "how" section.
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