The CIA's Attempt to Rig the Iraqi Elections

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Ramo
The Administration was planning on hijacking the Iraqi elections. That is what they wanted to do. It was only Pelosi et al.'s objections that stopped them. The checks and balances worked, but that doesn't mean that the Admin was acting responsibly.

A responsible Admin wouldn't have seriously considered such a vile act, much less proposed it to Congress.

Oh. I didn't see the part about where this was the ONLY plan they talked with Congress about. Oh wait! The article didn't say that, did it?


I want a CIA that presents ALL viable options to the elected commander in chief and I want a commander in chief that is willing to discuss ALL options with the elected Congress. To my eyes, that looks like what probably happened here. There is NO evidence that this was more than just an option being discussed, but it looks as if you are making the leap that this was an admin plan that those good little Congress people shot down. Yeah, right. If they were planning on hijacking Iraqi elections the first Congress would have heard about it would be long after it happened. You are just looking for a reason to take a slap at Bush based on pre-concieved notions.

A responsibel Admin will consider all options and will decide on the correct one...which is what this Admin has done.

The only problem here is that someone decided to leak top secret info with the goal of damaging this country's leadership and further endanger people on the ground in Iraq. Not only is it criminal but it is the height of irresponsibility.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten


Exactly right. Nothing happened with the CIA plan, so it should never have been leaked. It's too bad we'll probably never find out who the POS who released this is...

I'm glad this was released.


It shows that all this "democracy brought to Iraq" is nothing but rhetorical bullsh*t to please American voters who support Bush.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


And the insurgents were waiting for an article in Time before they would believe we had any intention of "influencing" the choice of future Iraqi governments.

If they hadn't read that article, they would have just said "everything's gonna be A-OK, let's just head home."

Are you really going to tell me this dosen't damage our efforts, or that it was a proper thing to do?

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

If they hadn't read that article, they would have just said "everything's gonna be A-OK, let's just head home."

Well duh, MtG .

That goes for you too, Imran. I know you're against Bush, but this, from you, is really disappointing.

[Ned]

Plato, could the leaker been Nancy Pelosi herself?

[Sava]

Bush doesn't believe in Democracy... the neo-cons are all lying *******s.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Sava
Bush doesn't believe in Democracy... the neo-cons are all lying *******s.

No, the people who accuse the neo-cons of lying are the liars. It is best to cover up what you are by accusing your opponents of your greatest vice.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Ned


No, the people who accuse the neo-cons of lying are the liars. It is best to cover up what you are by accusing your opponents of your greatest vice.

is that why the Bushies keep accusing Kerry or being a flip-flopper?

or perhaps that explains why you call Kerry a traitor and stuff.

[Ned]

Sava, no, this particular skill was learned at the feet of Marx, Lenin and Goebblels. Practitioners of extremist politics of the left or right are very skilled in its technique.

[Ramo]

Right, so instead, everyone will believe this is happening, the insurgency will be strengthened, and more of our soldiers will die.

That's a load of horse****. We've already stacked the deck in these elections, and the Iraqis can figure that out on their own. An article from the US press about how more election tampering was blocked by the political opposition ain't going to make a single difference on that matter.

Ramo doesn't care about whether the insurgency strengthens or more of our soldiers are killed, apparently, as long as Bush gets beat in November...

So, instead of leaking this, the press gets no whiff of this, and if Shrub wins the election, he is able to freely implement this plan. Which makes the Iraqi gov't that much less representative of its people and thus seen as that much more illegitimate, strengthening the insurgency, with more of our soldiers dying. Why do you hate American soldiers, you terroristic criminal?

Oh. I didn't see the part about where this was the ONLY plan they talked with Congress about. Oh wait! The article didn't say that, did it?

The idea that they somehow wanted input on the merits of the suggestion by Nancy Pelosi is bull****. Clearly, what they wanted was some money to fund the program.

I want a CIA that presents ALL viable options to the elected commander in chief and I want a commander in chief that is willing to discuss ALL options with the elected Congress.



To my eyes, that looks like what probably happened here.

Oh please. That isn't how it works and you know it.

There is NO evidence that this was more than just an option being discussed, but it looks as if you are making the leap that this was an admin plan that those good little Congress people shot down. Yeah, right. If they were planning on hijacking Iraqi elections the first Congress would have heard about it would be long after it happened. You are just looking for a reason to take a slap at Bush based on pre-concieved notions.

Having reading problems? From the article:
"A senior U.S. official hinted that, under pressure from the Hill, the Administration scaled back its original plans."

In other words, they were planning to do this, but decided not to due to Pelosi et al.'s objections.

And they are trying to hijack elections. As I pointed out earlier, Sistani has said that the proposed elections will consist of consist of 6 parties, mostly exiles some without popular basis (INC and INA in particular), having pre-approved slates of candidates.

The only problem here is that someone decided to leak top secret info with the goal of damaging this country's leadership and further endanger people on the ground in Iraq. Not only is it criminal but it is the height of irresponsibility.

The goal is to keep this country's leadership from doing evil and stupid **** in a country that our soldiers are occupying. They're the guys who save lives.

[Ned]

You guys are still attacking the US for being concerned about Iranian subversion of the Iraqi election?

Un-f*cking-believable.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Ned
Sava, no, this particular skill was learned at the feet of Marx, Lenin and Goebblels. Practitioners of extremist politics of the left or right are very skilled in its technique.

I didn't realize Marx was a politician. I always thought he was just some crackpot author.

[Arrian]

You guys are still attacking the US for being concerned about Iranian subversion of the Iraqi election?

Un-f*cking-believable.

You actually believe that we were merely thinking about countering this alleged "Iranian subversion?" Un****ingbelieveable. Are you that naive?

-Arrian

[Ned]

Arrian, you have got to have attended a college where the professor's brainwashed you big time about the evil, evil CIA.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You actually believe that we were merely thinking about countering this alleged "Iranian subversion?" Un****ingbelieveable. Are you that naive?

Hehe... and, of course, the best way to counter Iranian subversion is to have covert funding actions by the CIA. These Bushies will convince themselves of anything if Dear Leader is connected to it.