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  • #76
    Originally posted by Ramo
    The Admin tried to take the plan to Congress, and they objected strongly. What the Admin did was not what it should have done.
    Are you saying that they should NOT have consulted Congress on information supplied by the CIA?

    I would imagine that there were probably other CIA info and plans discussed...they just weren't leaked.

    I think it is great that the Admin consulted Congress on this issue. Far better than making a solo decision. In fact, I applaud this as an excellent sign of government!
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • #77
      The Administration was planning on hijacking the Iraqi elections. That is what they wanted to do. It was only Pelosi et al.'s objections that stopped them. The checks and balances worked, but that doesn't mean that the Admin was acting responsibly.

      A responsible Admin wouldn't have seriously considered such a vile act, much less proposed it to Congress.
      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
      -Bokonon

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      • #78
        What the Mad Monk said.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
          Rigging elections for democracy
          Democracy
          Comarade Tassadar

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          • #80
            Rigging elections for Comrade Tassader.
            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
            -Bokonon

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            • #81
              Rigging elections for Ted Striker
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #82
                Ted Striker
                KH FOR OWNER!
                ASHER FOR CEO!!
                GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                • #83
                  You can't rig an election for democracy. ARGH!!! How can you even say that.
                  Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                  Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                  We've got both kinds

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by MikeH
                    You can't rig an election for democracy. ARGH!!! How can you even say that.
                    Saddam lover!

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                    • #85
                      Yawn.

                      The bigger issue when it comes to the legitimacy of the election is this attempt by the exile parties to create on giant candidate list including all 6 parties, as their way to ensure for all of them some power.

                      Imagine going to the polls in the US and seeing one united Republican and Democratic slate-heck, even the Greens and Independents in the slate as well, with the only people not running in the lsate being the liberterians, socialists and some natural science party... yeah, that will be some democratic choice

                      The admin. should be fighting that plan.
                      If you don't like reality, change it! me
                      "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                      "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                      "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Sir Ralph


                        Saddam lover!
                        Saddam was great at rigging elections. He's still there if they need a hand.
                        Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                        Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                        We've got both kinds

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                        • #87
                          Typical leftist comment. In a story that states that Iran is trying to influence the elections and that CIA was considering countering that, the leftist condemns whom? Iran? No. They condemn:

                          The United States of America.
                          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                          • #88
                            Thanks Ned, our dose of the Nedaverse was missing
                            If you don't like reality, change it! me
                            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by GePap
                              Thanks Ned, our dose of the Nedaverse was missing
                              You're very welcome, GePap.
                              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Ramo
                                Well, it's early, I misread, big deal. In any case, the source indicated the program was scaled back, not necessarily eliminated. So, I'm afraid you'd already pwned yourself.

                                And it's still good that the source leaked this to the press, to make sure the Bush Admin doesn't implement this plan at all.
                                Right, so instead, everyone will believe this is happening, the insurgency will be strengthened, and more of our soldiers will die.
                                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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