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  • #61
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    So when a country enacts a new Constitution, it should get the approval of all its provinces?


    Um... you don't think that when a country gets a new Constitution it should get all administrative parts under it to agree?
    He meant that Quebec still hasn't signed Canada's (edit : last ) Constitution
    What?

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    • #62
      All Canadian provinces should secede from Canada, reform under a new name, and then refuse accession applications from Quebec.
      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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      • #63
        He meant that Quebec still hasn't signed Canada's (edit : last ) Constitution


        But it seems they operate under it. They send representatives to Parliament. They send money and get back even more than they send to Ottawa. Even if they haven't signed it officially, by their actions, they have agreed to it. Now if Quebec decided to not participate in the government, didn't send money to the government, then you may have an issue. But that isn't the case.
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        • #64
          I'm netural in this matter, whatever happens happens. But it'd be cool to have a real Native American nation. The Inuits - the new civ for CIV?
          Who is Barinthus?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
            He meant that Quebec still hasn't signed Canada's (edit : last ) Constitution


            But it seems they operate under it. They send representatives to Parliament. They send money and get back even more than they send to Ottawa. Even if they haven't signed it officially, by their actions, they have agreed to it.
            No argument here.

            Now if Quebec decided to not participate in the government, didn't send money to the government, then you may have an issue.
            Wouldn't that be equal to secession or a unilateral declaration of independance?

            edited for last part.
            Last edited by Richelieu; September 27, 2004, 17:17.
            What?

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            • #66
              I think we need an "indigenous Greenlander" smiley

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              I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Barinthus
                I'm netural in this matter, whatever happens happens. But it'd be cool to have a real Native American nation. The Inuits - the new civ for CIV?
                At least we already have Paraguay with the importance of the Guarani language there.

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                • #68
                  Canada would recognize an independent Greenland only if the new entity renounced all claims to Hans Island


                  Oh and it IS the Turks and Caicos that has been mentioned as a entity interested in formal links with Canada
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Dauphin
                    All Canadian provinces should secede from Canada, reform under a new name, and then refuse accession applications from Quebec.
                    Same with EU and the UK
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Dauphin
                      All Canadian provinces should secede from Canada, reform under a new name, and then refuse accession applications from Quebec.
                      Would it be alright for the US to take over a few provinces in the ensuing chaos of this move?
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        He meant that Quebec still hasn't signed Canada's (edit : last ) Constitution


                        But it seems they operate under it. They send representatives to Parliament. They send money and get back even more than they send to Ottawa. Even if they haven't signed it officially, by their actions, they have agreed to it. Now if Quebec decided to not participate in the government, didn't send money to the government, then you may have an issue. But that isn't the case.
                        Yeah, there is a technical problem. The people of Quebec refused the Constitution by referendum but at the same time it also refused secession.

                        Both parties that have been governing since the end of the 70s are stuck in a black hole: even though none of them will agree to join the Constitution as it is right now, They still have not a) been able to (the separatists) or b) been willing to, because of the fear of losing nationalist votes (this is the case of the Liberals) propose something different.
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                        • #72
                          Here is my main problem with the referendum. Say 51% say they want to leave Canada. We are going to make the 49% go along with it? Isn't that a major problem for such a large decision? Are we then going to allow secession for Anglo areas in Quebec? Where does it end?
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                          • #73
                            With the collapse of Canada and a lot of added territory for the US.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              Here is my main problem with the referendum. Say 51% say they want to leave Canada. We are going to make the 49% go along with it? Isn't that a major problem for such a large decision?
                              True. But then, what does it take? 52%? 54%? 63%? When is a majority a "large enough" majority? And what about denying the 51% who said Yes?

                              Are we then going to allow secession for Anglo areas in Quebec? Where does it end?
                              Anglos areas, northern Quebec (a lot more than 50% of the territory) etc... etc...
                              What?

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                                Are we then going to allow secession for Anglo areas in Quebec?


                                From the viewpoint of Parti Quebecois, fat chance.

                                Personally, I am more concerned about the Cree areas in the North than the anglophones in the South. The Cree want to stay in Canada, and their lands include a lot of Quebec's hydroelectric stuff.
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