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  • Imran, He dismissed parliament because his coalition was about to lose power. He was becoming extremely unpopular due to his socialist confiscations and dictatorial powers. Here is a short quote:

    "On Aug. 30, 1952, Iran turned down a joint Anglo-American proposal designed to break the oil deadlock. In the proposal Great Britain for the first time accepted the Iranian nationalization law as valid, but still insisted that compensation be based on potential revenue losses as well as on physical assets of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. Iran broke off diplomatic relations with Great Britain on October 22.

    Early in 1953 the parliament extended Mossadegh’s dictatorial powers for another year. The prime minister demanded that the shah be stripped of power.

    The dissension between pro- and anti-Mossadegh forces reached a climax during the summer of 1953. The premier dissolved the lower house on the basis of a plebiscite (August 3–10) in which he suspended the secret ballot."

    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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    • He was becoming extremely unpopular due to his socialist confiscations and dictatorial powers. Here is a short quote:


      Which doesn't prove any of your assertions . Because there were some anti-Mossadegh forces he was 'extremely unpopular'? And as we know, the CIA and MI6 sponsored the anti-Mossadegh forces as a part of Operation Ajax.

      It's kind of funny that he was becoming unpopular because of his 'socialist confiscations' when he was so utterly popular after his nationalization plans that the Shah was forced to re-offer him the Prime Minister job after sacking him. He nationalized in 1951 and was overwhelming voted as PM by the Majlis in 1952. Sorry, that explination does not wash. As for his dictatorial powers, there is no proof that I've seen that his popularity declined as a result. Many populist leaders will gain popularity when taking more and more power. And, once again, the US and UK moved in BEFORE he dismissed the Majlis. You keep ignoring that point because it destroys your entire argument. That's ok, I'm keeping score too.

      What is it lately with your 'quotes' you post that don't support any of the positions you are advocating?
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • Imran, who were those landlords whose estates were confiscated? If you doubt this, just how much ordinary people hate the imposition of communism, look at Venezuela today.

        I agree, that he was popular when he went after the Brits. But when he turned on his own people, he became a pariah to all but the radicals, like the Tudeh.

        He got rid of parliament because he was about to lose power.
        http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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        • f you doubt this, just how much ordinary people hate the imposition of communism, look at Venezuela today.


          IIRC, Chavez won the referendum by a damned good amount.

          he was popular when he went after the Brits.


          And the Brits and Amis went after him when he was at the height of his popularity after being elected to the Prime Minister position. So they went after a democratic leader and tried to get the monarchists back in power in the Majlis.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • You ingore that he had himself declard Dictator by parliament and had forced the Shah to turn control of the army over to him long prior to the coup being approved by Ike.

            Face it, Imran, he was a usurper, not a prime minister.
            http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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            • Because you say so?

              He was voted Prime Minister by the Majlis and then re-elected to the position. He was removed by the Shah, but then because Massadegh was so popular he had him installed as PM again.

              Of course the US and Brits decided to get rid of him before his relection as PM. Well before Mossadegh had the Majlis put on hold.

              Face it, Ned, you've been proven wrong. In other language, you've been PWNED!
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • Imran, he had himself declared Dictator by parliament, chased the Shah out of Iran, and dissolved parliament permanently.

                And you say I am PWNED?
                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                • Does anybody actually seriously listen to these political puppets spew their meaningless speeches?

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                  • On Meet the Press, the panelists said the first half of Kerry's speech, Kerry sounded like Dean and that the second half sounded like Bush. People listening to his speech could get confused as to what Kerry really wanted to do.
                    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                    • Imran, he had himself declared Dictator by parliament, chased the Shah out of Iran, and dissolved parliament permanently.

                      And you say I am PWNED?




                      The US and Britain were plotting to take him out before he was even relected as Prime Minister. Before any 'dictatorial' moves. Yes, I'd say you are badly PWNED.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • ** MrFun puts padding on the wall before Imran knocks himself out
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • Thanks
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • So be it, Imran. I have been PWNED by an imbecile.
                            http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                            • I will do anything to see Ned get trounced.
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • Originally posted by MrFun
                                I will do anything to see Ned get trounced.
                                MrFun, I adore you. How could you say such a thing?
                                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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