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Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... -
It's him sending the documents from Abilene that gets me.
Last edited by Ogie Oglethorpe; September 17, 2004, 15:06."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Oh come on, you know GePap has a problem typing.
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Figures.Gallup had Shrub up by 13 a week before the 2000 election.Only feebs vote.Comment
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I would like to know, if it was by the grace of the republicans that the civil rights bills were passes, why the Southern Democrats generally switched parties. During Nixon's admin, the Republicans inaugerated their "southern strategy," which was coincidentally the president directly after Johnson (a democrat) pushed through that legislation. Really, bringing up the southern democrats only aides my argument, because it was in fact the civil rights legislation (among other things, yes, but certainly twas a factor) that started to push the solid south from the Democratic Camp to the Republican camp.Most of this troll I will not address other than to point out for the umpteenth million time it was the [sarcasm]party of inclusion that party of tolerance that was the main opposition to civil rights[/sarcasm], ie. Dems. Only because the Republicans were real party of tolerance did the civil rights bills become law as the southern Dems were the opposition."Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - ElokComment
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I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
Asher on molly bloomComment
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Hilarious eh?Originally posted by Datajack Franit
Fez's opinion
Only feebs vote.Comment
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Both parties suck with teeth. The GOP's teeth are just pointier.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Well, true, but Socialist Workers just isn't going to get the kind of votes to make it a viable alternative."Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - ElokComment
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The fact that the election was anywhere near that close proves that Gore ****ed it up. It was his election. He was coming off a 8 year run with a popular President, everyone said how much smarter he was than Bush but apparently he ****ed it up.Originally posted by MrFun
It's amazing how bad people's memory is when it comes to the election of 2000. The ones who voted for Bush gloat about Bush's victory as if he won with an overwhelming majority, when in fact, Gore lost just BARELY to Bush.
And some even claim that Gore had won, but the Supreme Court ruled otherwise.
Now we are involved in a very polarizing war, the economy is supposedly in the dumps, the incumbant is disliked overseas, there are alligations of not doing his duty in time of an earlier war but the most Kerry can do is get the people that hate Bush. Apparently not that adequate.
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul TighComment
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Nope.Originally posted by mrmitchell
Gallup is not a far-right polling organization. They just had a bad sample.
You spew nonsense. So much nonsense it is drowning us.If you haven't heard of Pew at all, you haven't been paying much attention at all to politics except for coming here to spew fezz everywhere.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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We don't need no stinking votes. Those who would like to vote otherwise will be too busy mining salt.Well, true, but Socialist Workers just isn't going to get the kind of votes to make it a viable alternative.Only feebs vote.Comment
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What's this? Why you mean Gallup is making ridiculous assumptions about registered and likely voters that would skew their poll to the right?
This morning we awoke to the startling news that despite a flurry of different polls this week all showing a tied race, the venerable Gallup Poll, as reported widely in the media (USA Today and CNN) today, showed George W. Bush with a huge 55%-42% lead over John Kerry amongst likely voters. The same Gallup Poll showed an 8-point lead for Bush amongst registered voters (52%-44%). Before you get discouraged by these results, you should be more upset that Gallup gets major media outlets to tout these polls and present a false, disappointing account of the actual state of the race. Why?
Because the Gallup Poll, despite its reputation, assumes that this November 40% of those turning out to vote will be Republicans, and only 33% will be Democrat.
You read that correctly. I asked Gallup, who have been very courteous to my requests, to send me this morning their sample breakdowns by party identification for both their likely and registered voter samples they use in these national and I suspect their state polls. This is what I got back this morning:
Likely Voter Sample Party IDs – Poll of September 13-15
Reflected Bush Winning by 55%-42%
Total Sample: 767
GOP: 305 (40%)
Dem: 253 (33%)
Ind: 208 (28%)
Registered Voter Sample Party IDs – Same Poll
Reflected Bush Winning by 52%-44%
Total Sample: 1022
GOP: 381 (38%)
Dem: 336 (33%)
Ind: 298 (30%)
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According to John Zogby himself:
If we look at the three last Presidential elections, the spread was 34% Democrats, 34% Republicans and 33% Independents (in 1992 with Ross Perot in the race); 39% Democrats, 34% Republicans, and 27% Independents in 1996; and 39% Democrats, 35% Republicans and 26% Independents in 2000.
So the Democrats have been 39% of the voting populace in both 1996 and 2000, and the GOP has not been higher than 35% in either of those elections. Yet Gallup trumpets a poll that used a sample that shows a GOP bias of 40% amongst likely voters and 38% amongst registered voters, with a Democratic portion of the sample down to levels they haven’t been at since a strong three-way race in 1992?
Folks, unless Karl Rove can discourage the Democratic base into staying home in droves and gets the GOP to come out of the woodwork, there is no way in hell that these or any other Gallup Poll is to be taken seriously.
How likely is it that the Democrats will suffer a seven-point difference against the GOP this November or that the GOP will ever hit 40%?
Not very likely.
The real problem here is that Gallup is spreading a false impression of this race. Through its 1992 partnership with two international media outlets (CNN and USA Today), Gallup is telling voters and other media by using badly-sampled polls that the GOP and its candidates are more popular than they really are. Given that Gallup’s CEO is a GOP donor, this should not be a surprise. But it does require us to remind the media, like Susan Page of USA Today, who wrote the lead story on the poll in the morning paper, and other members of the media who cite this poll today, that it is based on a faulty sample composition of 40% GOP and 33% Democratic.
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it's only 2 touchdowns. no big deal. Kerry just needs to get a turnover and he's right back in it.“It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of ManComment
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Nevermind...Last edited by Drake Tungsten; September 18, 2004, 09:56.KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!Comment
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