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  • #121
    Especially when he used extortion and other tactics to force people to vote for him.. and casted fake ballots.
    The correct conjugation is "cast".

    Chavez doesn't have the support of the voters, that's why he had to rig the election.
    He must be especially brilliant, since he's managed to fool the world's media, leaving your humble self in sole possession of the field of truth.

    There are plenty of homophobic democrats and commies, as yourself.
    How many Dems voted for Bush's antifag constitutional amendment and how many Democrats?
    Only feebs vote.

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    • #122
      Originally posted by Agathon


      The correct conjugation is "cast".
      Well you can be the grammar nazi, fine with me.

      He must be especially brilliant, since he's managed to fool the world's media, leaving your humble self in sole possession of the field of truth.
      You are not the one looking at the truth. Chavez doesn't have the support of his people. He's making them suffer and starve.

      How many Dems voted for Bush's antifag constitutional amendment and how many Democrats?
      "Anti-***"? Anybody who uses that word to describe gay people is a homophobic. And you must slam your head against a wall to remember the original Defense of Marriage Act was signed in by Bill Clinton.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #123
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        from the NYT about the latest poll

        Mr. Kerry's advisers said they thought the lead was probably closer to 2 or 3 percent, while Mr. Bush's aides said it was around 5 percent.
        That sounds reasonable to me. I'd take either one of those figures as close to the truth.
        Only feebs vote.

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        • #124
          Originally posted by Agathon
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          from the NYT about the latest poll



          That sounds reasonable to me. I'd take either one of those figures as close to the truth.
          Both of those think it probably stablizied around that.

          But I think it may be a little more...

          Did you see that CBS Poll I posted?
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #125
            "Anti-***"? Anybody who uses that word to describe gay people is a homophobic.
            Go hang around conservative Xtian websites for a while then.

            And you must slam your head against a wall to remember the original Defense of Marriage Act was signed in by Bill Clinton.
            Where in your world do communists have any love for Clinton?

            Most people on the left consider the DoMA the nadir of his presidency.
            Only feebs vote.

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            • #126
              Did you see that CBS Poll I posted?
              That's the one they are talking about.

              A 14 point lead is just too unbelievable given the long term polarisation of voters.
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #127
                Originally posted by Agathon


                Go hang around conservative Xtian websites for a while then.



                Where in your world do communists have any love for Clinton?

                Most people on the left consider the DoMA the nadir of his presidency.
                I don't like the left wing and they don't speak for me. They are not going to get my attention of speaking "favorably" on one issue (but in reality are just speaking favorably for political gain and using people politically).
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #128
                  Originally posted by Agathon


                  That's the one they are talking about.

                  A 14 point lead is just too unbelievable given the long term polarisation of voters.
                  Careful there... don't miscalculate the voters. I think the lead is anywhere between 6-13%, it pretty much solidified.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #129
                    "If we look at the three last Presidential elections, the spread was 34% Democrats, 34% Republicans and 33% Independents (in 1992 with Ross Perot in the race); 39% Democrats, 34% Republicans, and 27% Independents in 1996; and 39% Democrats, 35% Republicans and 26% Independents in 2000."

                    True, but I do not nessecarily agree with Zogby in resampling polls the way it does. The key point here is those past 3 elections were all ones the Democrats won-- at least in terms of the popular vote. And not only did Gore win the 2000 popular vote, but Nader took a number of votes that year, giving liberal candidates a solid 3 point edge in that election. It seems natural that Democrats would turn out in greater numbers in years where they got more votes; it is typically the case that in races where one party has a stronger candidate their political affiliation shows up more. I should expect in a race where the GOP had a greater advantage they would represent more of the turnout, and that it would be a mistake that voter registration by share of turnout will always be the same it was the previous three elections.
                    "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                    "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                    • #130
                      Even the conservative pundits aren't making much waves out of this... I had the dis/pleasure of listening to Sean Hannity's radio show today and he was downplaying the gallup poll results as well.

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                      • #131
                        True, but I do not nessecarily agree with Zogby in resampling polls the way it does. The key point here is those past 3 elections were all ones the Democrats won-- at least in terms of the popular vote. And not only did Gore win the 2000 popular vote, but Nader took a number of votes that year, giving liberal candidates a solid 3 point edge in that election. It seems natural that Democrats would turn out in greater numbers in years where they got more votes; it is typically the case that in races where one party has a stronger candidate their political affiliation shows up more. I should expect in a race where the GOP had a greater advantage they would represent more of the turnout, and that it would be a mistake that voter registration by share of turnout will always be the same it was the previous three elections.
                        In other words, turnout is decided by the results of the turnout.
                        meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                        • #132
                          Originally posted by Giancarlo
                          I trust this poll more then others, especially considering the amount of years they have been in this business.
                          Just another reason to trust Apple over Dell
                          In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                          • #133
                            Originally posted by Oncle Boris


                            Just another reason to trust Apple over Dell
                            I don't own dell. I own custom built.

                            And apple sucks.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #134
                              Apparentlly Gore wasn't adequate and Kerry is bound and determined to prove that he is just as inadequate as Gore.
                              apparently? you mean by getting more votes than bush?
                              nice!

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                              • #135
                                Originally posted by Atahualpa


                                apparently? you mean by getting more votes than bush?
                                nice!
                                Nice attack, no cigar. Kerry is a lot worse then Bore, I mean Gore.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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