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  • #46
    If the process of legal immigration takes long time - well, tough luck. Things worthwhile getting often aren't that easy to get.

    Most countries especially the First World ones screen their immigrants, why shouldnt Americans do the same? During the early days of the country, we were starved for people to come here to help us build our country. The need is not as great today as it was back then.

    As for low-paying jobs, I say, give them to our homeless and high school teenagers (summer time only of course) who are spoiled and need some character building anyway.

    Amensity programs only encourage more illegals to come in so

    I'm not saying the system is perfect - I definitely support the idea of reforming the whole process of legal immigration since it'd benefit everybody including Americans. But, come on, at least I expect foreigners to respect our system until we get around to set up a new one.

    After all when I travel aboard my rule is that I am a guest in their country and I act accordingly. I respect their customs and their way of life and I expect vice versa from others who come to the States.
    Who is Barinthus?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Oerdin
      I'm also against amnesty programs because they inevitably reward people for criminal behavior ...
      ...not to mention increase costs for the taxpayer.
      ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
      ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Barinthus
        Most countries especially the First World ones screen their immigrants, why shouldnt Americans do the same?
        Hey, even some 3rd-world countries are against illegal immigration:

        Mexico Deports American Illegal Aliens

        Washington Post, Sep. 12


        TIJUANA, Mexico—Authorities closed three rehabilitation centers in northern Mexico this week and deported hundreds of U.S. teenagers sent there for treatment of drug, alcohol or behavior problems, immigration officials said.

        Authorities shut the three centers in the Baja California towns of Ensenada and Rosarito on Friday and began deporting 590 youths, many of whom were in Mexico illegally.

        A man who answered the phone at one of the centers identified by the immigration officials, the House of Hope Academy in the Pacific coastal town of Ensenada, declined to comment.

        The other two centers could not be immediately identified and contacted for comment.

        Mexico investigated the centers after complaints of maltreatment, and found the youths had entered Mexico as tourists, not residents of treatment programs, the National Immigration Institute said.

        (Posted on September 14, 2004)
        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Sava
          these people are only "illegal" because the "legal" US immigration system is slow and inefficient...

          the only thing they are guilty of is wanting to have a better life...
          So when I steal someone else's car, the only thing I am guilty of is wanting a better life via a new Mercedes?

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          • #50
            The link didn't work..
            Who is Barinthus?

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            • #51
              Good for them
              That 3 million number is vastly inflated as well, as very few of those 3 million come to the US and stay there forever, many hop back and forth over the border many many times and thus can get counted again and again.

              My ancestors came to the US right before the racist 3% immigration laws, which would've probably kept them out. I'm damn happy that my family was able to come over when there was a liberal immigration policy and I don't see why other people's family's shouldn't be able to do the same thing.
              Stop Quoting Ben

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Sava
                absolutely... America is a nation of immigrants.
                Name a country that isn't.

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                • #53
                  switzerland, finland, china, madagascar.
                  "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                  • #54
                    So people just popped out of the ground in those countries?

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                    • #55
                      No, they were there before they decided to make those countries.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #56
                        The colonists got here before they decided to revolt and form the US.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                          I don't respect our laws. I speed, smoke dope, etc. Are you suggesting I should hold others to a standard which I do not hold myself to?
                          No, but don't be surprised if other people hold you up to theirs.
                          “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                          "Capitalism ho!"

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                          • #58
                            the problem with the colonists was that they weren't the first. and secondly, they weren't the last either.
                            "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
                              the problem with the colonists was that they weren't the first. and secondly, they weren't the last either.
                              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                                smoke dope, etc.
                                That maybe why you loose so many jobs.
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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