Oh, dude.

[laurentius]

Vodka: Uhm how many of those tornadoes were actually used in Kosovo? 1? 2?
If you were the ones that bombed those refugee caravans then I admit I was wrong...

I've never said military targets werent worthy ones for tactical strikes. but look at hese guys, waiting for the running people to stack up....sick

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Verto


Clearly you are articulate every waking moment, regardless of the situation. For example, I once drove by the scene of a fairly severe automobile accident. Now, shockingly, my first reaction was "Oh crap."

Does my failure to use SAT-level vocabulary to express my emotions render me a heartless, cold blooded killer.

[Verto]

Originally posted by laurentius
Verto: hehe its you with your unbelievable crap who are trolling. If I was still in the army, I would have some sence of pride not to use weapons like that. If its a worthy cause, i'm willing to die unlike you corrupt americans. Go eat your big macs

Nah, sounds like you're just trying to put some spin on the fact that you cant afford all our toys.

Originally posted by MrFun

Nice response.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by laurentius
Vodka: Uhm how many of those tornadoes were actually used in Kosovo? 1? 2?
If you were the ones that bombed those refugee caravans then I admit I was wrong...

I've never said military targets werent worthy ones for tactical strikes. but look at hese guys, waiting for the running people to stack up....sick

We don't have enough video to be sure as to whether this is an atrocity or just an ordinary military strike.

What if a group of people attacked an iraqi police station firing smg's and rpgs at the police station from nearby cover as has happened on numerous occasions this year? Presumably the nearby cover might be hit with an airstrike causing the attackers to scatter away from the police station into the nearest road. We might expect the pilots to fire on the fleeing crowd in that instance because partisan fighters that cannot be captured almost always return at a later time to inflict more damage. If that is the sort of situation we are seeing in this video then, that would certainly not constitute an atrocity of any kind. It would just be good sense.

[laurentius]

Verto: be my guest and try to justify this in your sick minds...indeed im only jealous...whoa get a grip

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Verto


Nah, sounds like you're just trying to put some spin on the fact that you cant afford all our toys.



Nice response.

Your troll did not deserve an articulated response.

[laurentius]

Originally posted by Geronimo


We don't have enough video to be sure as to whether this is an atrocity or just an ordinary military strike.

What if a group of people attacked an iraqi police station firing smg's and rpgs at the police station from nearby cover as has happened on numerous occasions this year? Presumably the nearby cover might be hit with an airstrike causing the attackers to scatter away from the police station into the nearest road. We might expect the pilots to fire on the fleeing crowd in that instance because partisan fighters that cannot be captured almost always return at a later time to inflict more damage. If that is the sort of situation we are seeing in this video then, that would certainly not constitute an atrocity of any kind. It would just be good sense.

indeed who knows, do you?

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by laurentius
Verto: be my guest and try to justify this in your sick minds...indeed im only jealous...whoa get a grip

You don't need a sick mind to justify this. Check out my post just above.

The video doesn't tell us much of anything.

Imagine a video where we see 6 unarmed guys running away from a doorway towards the camera get mowed down by a guy with a submachine gun. obviously it is a sick atrocity right? only a diseased mind could not see that right? Well what if behind the camera was a room containing a bunch of schoolchildren who were being held hostage by the group that included the 6 guys and their detonator had failed to blow up the room with the hostages so they were running to try to make sure the explosives went off before the hostages could be freed? would it be an atrocity then? You are acting as if this little grainy video of about 1 minute actually offers us any context whatsoever instead of a little audio/visual tidbit of a much larger and vastly more complex situation.

[laurentius]

if, if, imagine? yeah lets start to write fantasy

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by laurentius
if, if, imagine? yeah lets start to write fantasy

Exactly! That is what you are doing when you just flatly state bald faced that this must be an atrocity and that only a sick mind could not see otherwise. You're filling in the unknown context of the situation with a fantasy of your own devising.

For the record I acknowledge that it is possible that the video may in fact show an atrocity of sorts depending on the circumstances surrounding the action. I admit that I do not know and I hope I can find the details of the context somewhere.

[laurentius]

Im filling it with the most likely scenario/the information the vid gives us.

Of course I dont have the infomation from the ground, but so dont you. The difference is that I'm having a higher moral ground under these circumstances than you. Even if they were combatants, its still pretty cowardly act. have some self respect

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by laurentius
Im filling it with the most likely scenario/the information the vid gives us.

Of course I dont have the infomation from the ground, but so dont you. The difference is that I'm having a higher moral ground under these circumstances than you. Even if they were combatants, its still pretty cowardly act. have some self respect

Self respect is recognizing that war isn't a game. People getting killed sucks and if by fighting 'unfair' you can ensure that only one side has to do the dying you have made the war at least that much less terrible. The war fighting style that you are advocating appears to be calculated to repeat the experience of ww1 in every combat situation. Just what possible bennifit is such a bankrupt prescription supposed to offer?

[laurentius]

Well perhaps I would pick only fight I'm willing to fight in. Maybe this Iraqi **** is something you shouldnt have done in the first place. Now prepare to die for your sins. Its the "blind bombings" like this that breed new al-qaida material. Have fun with your expensive toys, let the 40 million poor americans rot instead, spending money in this ****s more important.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by laurentius
Well perhaps I would pick only fight I'm willing to fight in. Maybe this Iraqi **** is something you shouldnt have done in the first place. Now prepare to die for your sins. Its the "blind bombings" like this that breed new al-qaida material. Have fun with your expensive toys, let the 40 million poor americans rot instead, spending money in this ****s more important.

At least we can both agree that the Iraq invasion was an obvious blunder.

I doubt that it was a "blind bombing" though. Every time they bomb from the air these days they have intelligence suggesting a combatant or military target is present. Too bad the track record of the intelligence is so lousy but even so that isn't blind bombing. Blind bombing would be the nighttime bombing that was done in ww2 or terrorist bombing where you don't much care what's underneath the bomb when it goes off so long as it doesn't belong to you or an ally.

[laurentius]

Originally posted by Geronimo


At least we can both agree that the Iraq invasion was an obvious blunder.

I doubt that it was a "blind bombing" though. Every time they bomb from the air these days they have intelligence suggesting a combatant or military target is present. Too bad the track record of the intelligence is so lousy but even so that isn't blind bombing. Blind bombing would be the nighttime bombing that was done in ww2 or terrorist bombing where you don't much care what's underneath the bomb when it goes off so long as it doesn't belong to you or an ally.

Oh come on!

So they have live feed from there? What use is that in this case for example? Bombing an unknown crowd of fleeing people is just as blind as bombing sleeping civilians like the Allies did in the WW2....