Well that's the end of rap music!

[Al B. Sure!]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/entertainment/main641872.shtml

A federal appeals court ruled Tuesday that rap artists should pay for every musical sample included in their work — even minor, unrecognizable snippets of music.

The case centers on the NWA song "100 Miles and Runnin," which samples a three-note guitar riff from "Get Off Your Ass and Jam" by '70s funk-master George Clinton and Funkadelic.

In the two-second sample, the guitar pitch has been lowered, and the copied piece was "looped" and extended to 16 beats. The sample appears five times in the new song.

copyright laws going to far?

[Traianvs]

greedy pigz

I'm not a particular fan of English rap, but it's indeed a ridiculous idea to charge for every lousy sample.

[alva]

[Ming]

Re: Well that's the end of rap music!

Originally posted by Albert Speer
copyright laws going to far?

Nope... if you are using somebodies elses work to make money, you should pay the "creators "something" for it.

[Tuberski]

Maybe rap will become something more than rhyming to other peoples music.

This has been the thing that annoys me the most about rap music.

All started with Vanilla Ice ripping off Under Pressure.

ACK!

[Colonâ„¢]

Re: Re: Well that's the end of rap music!

Originally posted by Ming


Nope... if you are using somebodies elses work to make money, you should pay the "creators "something" for it.

Law isn't a dogma.

[Traianvs]

Re: Re: Well that's the end of rap music!

Originally posted by Ming


Nope... if you are using somebodies elses work to make money, you should pay the "creators "something" for it.

There's not often any 'new' music. Most songs are ripped from other artist, and modified a bit to your own taste, and with your own 'sound', but it's the same thing. You rely on other music to make your own.

There's not many people around who make music without other artists' influences

[Dis]

OMG!

they might actually have to write their own music

[DRoseDARs]

[Dis]

Originally posted by Tuberski
Maybe rap will become something more than rhyming to other peoples music.

This has been the thing that annoys me the most about rap music.

All started with Vanilla Ice ripping off Under Pressure.

ACK!

technically it started with Run DMC ripping off Aerosmiths' walk this way. But they included Aerosmith in the video and it restarted Aerosmith's career- so they aren't complaining.

[Ming]

Re: Re: Re: Well that's the end of rap music!

Originally posted by Trajanus
There's not many people around who make music without other artists' influences

Influence is one thing... actually using it is a different story. The question as I see it would be... did they need the actual recording to create their own final work... and if the answer is yes... PAY UP. They are stealing somebody elses work.

[Tattila the Hun]

Rejoice!

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Dissident


technically it started with Run DMC ripping off Aerosmiths' walk this way. But they included Aerosmith in the video and it restarted Aerosmith's career- so they aren't complaining.

It's not "ripping off" if they have the cooperation of the owner of the music.

I didn't see Freddie Mercury or even David Bowie in the Vanilla Ice video.

ACK!

[Buck Birdseed]

Originally posted by Dissident


technically it started with Run DMC ripping off Aerosmiths' walk this way. But they included Aerosmith in the video and it restarted Aerosmith's career- so they aren't complaining.

Er... Technically it started with Kool Herc in the mid-seventies, or if you want to be arcane about it Count Machuki in the mid-sixties. (Recorded: U-roy, 1969/70 (Jamaica), probably Grandmaster Flash,1980/81 (US).)

Sampling, versioning, whatever you want to call it, is one of the premier creative devices of this century because it breaks off the ridiculous victorian "single creative genius" mythos and allows people to improve on music without ridiculous "ownership" restriants.

[Asher]

Sampling, versioning, whatever you want to call it, is one of the premier creative devices of this century

Sampling, by definition, is not creative...