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Originally posted by Starchild
Speaking from my, err....second hand experience
I agree with Ming, let's get back on topic. I started a new job yesterday, and if someone's reading of my shoulder it could be quite funny
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But he would think of something "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker
How is the motivations for circumcision irrelevant to the topic of banning the practice?
Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
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There's a little more scientific evidence supporting the claims now. The earlier studies were mostly badly flawed. OTOH the major study is not yet finished AFAIK. I still believe that monogamy and discouraging casual sex are still the best tactics. I also feel strongly that if you're going to advocate circumcision you ought to be up front about the risks. It offers relative protection, not absolute protection. I believe that in areas like Africa it's mandatory to advocate both approaches: mass circumcision, and monogamy.
One without the other would be counter-productive to the point of being dangerous. Circumcision might grant some dubious marginal protection to the owner of the knob in question, but not to whomever they choose to insert it into.
If they start getting the impression that it leaves you risk-free and able to happily spread your seed without protection, then they're a danger to themselves and many others. Personally speaking, I think offering circumcision as a prevention for AIDS is like promoting Bowler hats as a protection against getting shot in the head.
lol, I think Starchild's post just about sums it up. Uncut IS the way to go.
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"mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
Drake Tungsten
"get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
Albert Speer
Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I don't think circumcision was ever really based on science- although the African evidence is interesting.
I'd like to know why it was so common in the USA, Australia and other places. The military link is just a guess - those crazy ex army doctors....
In Europe, being circumcised is directly linked to being Jewish or muslim and I suspect that has a lot to do with the low general rate.
But hey! Who cares!
Right around WW2 some studies claiming to show the health benefits of circumcision with regards to infections and cancer of the penis were published. In the post-war US health insurance and in hospital births were becoming the norm. Once obstetricians and pediatricians accepted the proposed benefits of circumcision, and had been given a carte blanche by insurance companies circumcision rapidly became the norm for the US population. It was often part of the obstetrical package, and sometimes they didn't even ask the parents' permission.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
One without the other would be counter-productive to the point of being dangerous. Circumcision might grant some dubious marginal protection to the owner of the knob in question, but not to whomever they choose to insert it into.
If Willy ****er doesn't get the disease, then he can't pass it on to Vickie Vagina, now can he?
If they start getting the impression that it leaves you risk-free and able to happily spread your seed without protection, then they're a danger to themselves and many others. Personally speaking, I think offering circumcision as a prevention for AIDS is like promoting Bowler hats as a protection against getting shot in the head.
As I stated above it may confer a 50 to 75% reduction of the rate of transmission of the virus. Circumcision is the primary reason why the rate of AIDS among muslims in Africa is actually much less than half that of Christians and pagans in the same area.
You don't want to see the muslims take over do you?
Optimally the population should be made aware that monogamy is the best means to prevent the spread of HIV, but should be strongly encouraged to get themselves and their male children circumcised as the best, albeit imperfect protection against the consequences of human weakness. They should also be encouraged to use condoms.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
I'm just mystified as to why you are so interested in other men's tackle.
Not once did I express an interest in what other mens' "tackles" were like, or such. I've merely been debating the issue of circumcision. You are truly baffling.
Last edited by monolith94; September 8, 2004, 22:53.
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while I like a good circ thread as much as the next troll, the difference seems to me to be about as important as whether you like your potatos in the jacket or not.
Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
If Willy ****er doesn't get the disease, then he can't pass it on to Vickie Vagina, now can he?
You may have missed the crucial "One without the other..." in my post. Then again, you may just have felt like stating the blindingly obvious. Whatever.
The question here is whether the state has a right to intervene "on the childs behalf" In my case that would have ended up being to my personal detriment, and i cant help but think that theres something wrong with a moral calculus that is flagrantly wrong in the my own case.
Agreed. Like abortion, this one should be left up to the parents. I see absolutely no need for banning it.
And who wants to be on the circumcision task force anyways?
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