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  • #31
    Yes, I am sure the small minority of middle class iraqis who now get to use the internet have all valid opinions about the situation.

    And they are a tiny minority of the people, a self-selecitng group that does not mirror the population as a whole given the availability of internet access. So they have valid opinions that give us no insight watsoever into the opinions of the masses of Iraq anymore than anyone in this board by themselves does.
    If you don't like reality, change it! me
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    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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    • #32
      OH MY GAWD!!!


      YOU GUYS ARE PWNING YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!1111

      GEPAP IS THE BIGGEST ELITIST OF THEM ALL!!!!

      Thanks guys, you've shown your true elitist colors. I can't believe that you would actually admit your narrow-mindedness and actually be proud of it.

      You guys aren't intellectual snobs, you are WANNABE intellectual snobs!!!

      PWN3DDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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      • #33
        Yes, I am sure the small minority of middle class iraqis who now get to use the internet have all valid opinions about the situation.

        And they are a tiny minority of the people, a self-selecitng group that does not mirror the population as a whole given the availability of internet access. So they have valid opinions that give us no insight watsoever into the opinions of the masses of Iraq anymore than anyone in this board by themselves does.
        You're right. You know even though there's opinions ranging from anti-american to Pro-american they must be the evil rich middle-class and thus this invalidate's their opinions. Only the opinions of the masses matter and only if they support your opinion. And I'm sure those evil middle-class citizens never associate with the peasants (heavy sarcasm) that make up the masses. I bet they just live in their own little world never knowning about anything else around them. If you read the site you'd see that there are people on there from all walks of life. Students, doctors, people walking down the streets, etc. But you will do anything to keep your opinion from having any sort of challenges to it. I guess you are taking notes from the Democrats.

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        • #34


          Do you realize, even for a second, that ONLY THE ELITE IN IRAQ are going to have access to computers and know english?

          Do you honestly think some farmer in southern Iraq who may not even riht now have potable water or electricity, will be blogging?
          Or some consturction worker in Kirkut? Or some Iman in Baghdad?

          Give me a break boy.
          If you don't like reality, change it! me
          "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
          "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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          • #35
            Originally posted by MalevolentLight


            You're right. You know even though there's opinions ranging from anti-american to Pro-american they must be the evil rich middle-class and thus this invalidate's their opinions. Only the opinions of the masses matter and only if they support your opinion. And I'm sure those evil middle-class citizens never associate with the peasants (heavy sarcasm) that make up the masses. I bet they just live in their own little world never knowning about anything else around them. If you read the site you'd see that there are people on there from all walks of life. Students, doctors, people walking down the streets, etc. But you will do anything to keep your opinion from having any sort of challenges to it. I guess you are taking notes from the Democrats.
            You know, you give Fez a run for his money
            If you don't like reality, change it! me
            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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            • #36
              Do you realize, even for a second, that ONLY THE ELITE IN IRAQ are going to have access to computers and know english?

              Do you honestly think some farmer in southern Iraq who may not even riht now have potable water or electricity, will be blogging?
              Or some consturction worker in Kirkut? Or some Iman in Baghdad?

              Give me a break boy.
              You're right. Iraqi's are a backward people incapable of being educated. They must all be farmers incapable of knowing the world around them. And the farmers here are the same way. They are a simple people knowing only god and the land. Construction workers are no different. They are taught only how to complete their tasks of menial labor and then they return to their humble dwellings to await the next day of work. I think you are describing 15th century Europe, not Iraq. Maybe you should do some research on Iraq you might find they are not as uneducated and backward as you make them out to be. And you are right, I am but a boy who knows nothing and I should really be bowing to your will for you are far more educated and intelligent than I. Please, teach us all.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GePap


                Do you realize, even for a second, that ONLY THE ELITE IN IRAQ are going to have access to computers and know english?

                Do you honestly think some farmer in southern Iraq who may not even riht now have potable water or electricity, will be blogging?
                Or some consturction worker in Kirkut? Or some Iman in Baghdad?

                Give me a break boy.
                Keep digging yourself a hole, I love it!!!

                And even if that were true, what are you implying that they are 100% pro American!?!? Your argument is so narrow minded it goes against most of the liberal, open minded ideas you claim to represent.

                Sucks to be caught in your own moral loophole/copout doesn't it?
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #38
                  You honestly think 11 bloggers out of 25 million people give you an idea of the pulse of the nation? then you are a fool. But then your posts prove it.
                  If you don't like reality, change it! me
                  "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                  "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                  "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ted Striker


                    Keep digging yourself a hole, I love it!!!
                    Oh, thanks for the love Teddy Weedy

                    But I will think of you when I think of the uncultured peons!
                    If you don't like reality, change it! me
                    "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                    "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by GePap


                      Do you realize, even for a second, that ONLY THE ELITE IN IRAQ are going to have access to computers and know english?

                      Do you honestly think some farmer in southern Iraq who may not even riht now have potable water or electricity, will be blogging?
                      Or some consturction worker in Kirkut? Or some Iman in Baghdad?

                      Give me a break boy.
                      Wait a second.... Weren't you in favor of nuking those farmers in the south.

                      Whoops forgot that was southern USA.

                      My bad.
                      "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                      “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                      • #41
                        I am sure there are only 11 in all of Iraq!

                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by GePap
                          You honestly think 11 bloggers out of 25 million people give you an idea of the pulse of the nation? then you are a fool. But then your posts prove it.


                          Hmmm....now would they be more accurate and truthful than a foreign news organization like say, AL JAZEERA???

                          OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!


                          Stop it dude you're killing me this is too easy!!!!!
                          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                          • #43
                            I think Gepap and Agathon portray the typical liberal as a hypocritical elitest perfectly. And they wonder why liberalism is on its way out. Guess it's because the "masses" see them for what they are.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ted Striker

                              And even if that were true,
                              Which it is, given that the literacy rate in Iraq is now under 80%

                              what are you implying that they are 100% pro American!?!?
                              I will give you a buck if you can quote where in the thread I said such. But you can't, cause I never such a thing. Even ML states some are anti-American


                              Your argument is so narrow minded it goes against most of the liberal, open minded ideas you claim to represent.




                              My arguement is that a small group of bloggers don't in any way represent the voice of Iraq anymore than Che and Theben and Sava and you and Imran all of a sudden represent the views of the US. Thats an arguement based on reason, the basis of the liberal idea. Yours is based on emotion, the basis of, well, irrationality.

                              Sucks to be caught in your own moral loophole/copout doesn't it?
                              If you don't like reality, change it! me
                              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ted Striker
                                I am sure there are only 11 in all of Iraq!

                                Count the links in the site given. There might be more- of course, you can;t even conduct a worthwhile poll with less than say 600 people in a country that size. And I do doutb there are more than 100 blogs.
                                If you don't like reality, change it! me
                                "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                                "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                                "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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