Iraqi Blogs

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

GePap has a very valid point its not as if so-called intellectuals have been successful here in the US of organizing any real meaningful political activity.

[Ted Striker]

How could they NOT be indicative of public opinion?

The whole argument fails because once again you are lumping them all together because they have internet access so somehow that makes them a special group and therefore their opinions don't matter. It's a poor argument.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
How could they NOT be indicative of public opinion?

Because a handfull of people =/ the plurality, median, or mean of the opinions of 25 million people?

The whole argument fails because once again you are lumping them all together because they have internet access so somehow that makes them a special group and therefore their opinions don't matter. It's a poor argument.

Their opinon matters as much as that of the guys lobbying granades at Marines. The difference is while these guys are blogging, the other guys are doing (lobbying granades) and creating facts on the ground.

A few months ago some groups tried to put together an anti-terrorism protest by Iraqis. I think 5000 people showed up. Sistani then held a few rallies- hundreds of thousands showed up. Which set of ideas do you think is more popular?

[MalevolentLight]

Comrade Gepap doesn't see individuals or acknowledge individualism. Everyone is put together in groups according to economic and educational status. To determine the group's status Comrade Gepap uses his superior intellectual skills to label each group properly. Therefore this internet group is nothing more than a bunch of priveledged middle class aristocracy out of touch with the common man's opinion. Long live the motherland.

[Ted Striker]

So then why do those same principles not apply to Al Jazeera?

Handful of people, and top of that, FOREIGNERS

Sorry, you can't have it both ways

[MalevolentLight]

A few months ago some groups tried to put together an anti-terrorism protest by Iraqis. I think 5000 people showed up. Sistani then held a few rallies- hundreds of thousands showed up. Which set of ideas do you think is more popular?

Which set of ideas do you think is safer?

[GePap]

As the sole source of news from Iraq, who else will know better? NO one

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
So then why do those same principles not apply to Al Jazeera?

Handful of people, and top of that, FOREIGNERS

Sorry, you can't have it both ways

Sorry, but who the **** is talking about Al Jazeera? cause I am not.

[Ted Striker]

See what I mean?

Double standard.

Argument fails since it isn't applied equally.

Nice side step though.

[GePap]

Originally posted by MalevolentLight
Which set of ideas do you think is safer?

The obviously less popular ones.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by MalevolentLight
Comrade Gepap doesn't see individuals or acknowledge individualism. Everyone is put together in groups according to economic and educational status. To determine the group's status Comrade Gepap uses his superior intellectual skills to label each group properly. Therefore this internet group is nothing more than a bunch of priveledged middle class aristocracy out of touch with the common man's opinion. Long live the motherland.

A correct assessment.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
See what I mean?

Double standard.

Argument fails since it isn't applied equally.

Nice side step though.

Maybe you are not getting it, but I don't care about Al; Jazeera, nor am I speaking about them, nor do they matter.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Guys layoff already. GePap fully understands the impotence of the so-called intellectuals and their impact on society as a whole.

[MalevolentLight]

If you read any of the iraqi blogs you'd see that people like Al Sadr have become the next Saddam. They have people everywhere and people are afraid to express opinions contrary to him because bad things happen when you do. Maybe you haven't seen the videos of when Saddam took power and had everyone gather and began calling out names of people "suspected" of being enemies of the state. Those people were never seen again and by the end people were chanting Saddam's name. Amazing how that works.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by GePap


Maybe you are not getting it, but I don't care about Al; Jazeera, nor am I speaking about them, nor do they matter.

But you support them as a valuable news source, do you not?