Microsoft: Linux May Mean Price Cuts, Fewer Sales

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
Your very own words tell me that you still don't get it.
It is a fact that iMacs are abominations. It is not my opinion, it is the objective truth. My personal opinion just happens to coincide with the truth in this case.

If you want to be like that about it, I'll make this argument:
You think God is an absolute Truth. Other people think it's your opinion. They, however, are wrong.
Suck it up, man. In this case, with the iMacs, you're wrong.

This does not make the iMac "fully expandable". "Fully expandable" means that you can go into the machine, and add new components and modules. "Fully expandable" takes your notion of feature replaceability and potential upgradeability, as well as adding external peripherals, and then adds so much more.

It's the so much more part that the iMac cannot do.

Therefore, the iMac sucks.

Sigh.

It is such a waste of time debating with someone with such a closed-minded attitute.

You know what. Don't bother replying to my posts and be sure to PM me when you're ready to have an open-minded debate. Until then, hasta la vista, baby!

[Ted Striker]

Luke was gay

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Asher
2 x 120GB are SATA RAID. Linux doesn't know what to do with such a thing using the RAID BIOS, and wants to make it a software RAID (losing all Windows data).

That's pretty odd, because I was able to rig a Linux box with EIDE RAID for a client.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Don't lump your crappy freeware clone in with commercial Unix.

I have always wondered why IBM would want to put crappy code on their mainframes

BTW, freeware is not the same as free software. This whole thing is mildly amusing, though.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
That's pretty odd, because I was able to rig a Linux box with EIDE RAID for a client.

Obviously you did it with a software RAID.

Try configuring a hardware RAID (using the RAID BIOS), and then getting Linux to recognize it...

Hint: You can't. It's an architectural limitation on Linux.

You can build RAIDs in Linux, but you can't access that RAID from outside of Linux...

I have always wondered why IBM would want to put crappy code on their mainframes

Own goal: It's possible, and that's what some customers want.

As you likely don't know but probably should know, IBM promotes AIX as the optimal OS for mainframes.

They also sell way more AIX big-boxes than Linux.

[Ted Striker]

The only reason Linux IS any good is because of all the support from IBM.

[Ted Striker]

AIX

Crazy azz AIX patches

[The Mad Monk]

it's about as offensive as those pentecostal churches which bill themselves as "catholic" to get converts.

LINK, PLEASE!!!

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Asher
Obviously you did it with a software RAID.

Ah yes, Mr Know-It-All, who knows what I did better than I.

Originally posted by Asher
Try configuring a hardware RAID (using the RAID BIOS), and then getting Linux to recognize it...

It appears that I could use the driver that came with the RAID card under Linux.

Originally posted by Asher
Own goal: It's possible, and that's what some customers want.

How would customers know that they can run Linux on S39 if IBM doesn't tell them? They would think that AIX is the only OS they could use, just like the Bad Old Days.

[Agathon]

Everyone knows the PC is the People's Computer. Apple is a tool of the borgousie to hamper the workers' productivity and delay the Great Revolution

And Microsoft is the North Korea of computing.

I don't see your point. The imac is designed as a consumer computer for people who want an all in one, easy to use machine. It's pretty good at that.

People like Q Cubed think that everyone should use computers for what they want. Sure... and everyone should have a 16 wheeler to go shopping in.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Agathon

Everyone knows the PC is the People's Computer. Apple is a tool of the borgousie to hamper the workers' productivity and delay the Great Revolution

And Microsoft is the North Korea of computing.

I don't see your point. The imac is designed as a consumer computer for people who want an all in one, easy to use machine. It's pretty good at that.

People like Q Cubed think that everyone should use computers for what they want. Sure... and everyone should have a 16 wheeler to go shopping in.

I have to give mrmitchell a 10/10 on this one. Perfect delivery, and the target was completely unsuspecting.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Ah yes, Mr Know-It-All, who knows what I did better than I.

It appears that I could use the driver that came with the RAID card under Linux.

Good job.

Now you tell me how to use a hardware RAID using the driver that came with the RAID card under Linux -- so you can dualboot with it.

[Q Classic]

Sigh.

It is such a waste of time debating with someone with such a closed-minded attitute.

says the one who's a fundie.

You know what. Don't bother replying to my posts and be sure to PM me when you're ready to have an open-minded debate. Until then, hasta la vista, baby!

now you're trying to tell me when to post. does this not get any better?

it is an article of faith to me that the imac sucks. i see it as the truth, as you see god as the truth. i find it offensive that you refuse to admit that some people can have beliefs that do not coincide with your own.

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And Microsoft is the North Korea of computing.

coming from a mac fanboi, i find this ridiculous.
anybody with half a brain knows that AOL is the North Korea of computing. Microsoft is just China.

I don't see your point. The imac is designed as a consumer computer for people who want an all in one, easy to use machine. It's pretty good at that.

Small, truly expandable computers can fit for that purpose.

People like Q Cubed think that everyone should use computers for what they want. Sure... and everyone should have a 16 wheeler to go shopping in.

false comparison. an imac is like a two-seater plymouth prowler with its hood sealed shut. it looks nice, it gets people where they want, but you can only change a few things, like color, maybe a spoiler or two, the rims, and, drastically, the whole hood section by taking it out and putting in a new one. even worse, it's not even that well-powered, having an anemic 4-cylinder engine.
so yeah, it's a "computer" but it doesn't do its job very well.
on the other hand, with a computer like a powermac g5 or an alienware box, you get a ferrari that you can replace and upgrade individually. that v8 engine not good enough? slap in a v16. the color and the rims not nice? change 'em. want a turbocharger? stick one in. want to add leather seats instead of the velour ones? put 'em in. hell, you could do that with even the yugos of the computing world, those retarded emachines, compaq, or hp boxes.

that's why those fit more along the lines of a "computer".

the choice is between a car that looks nice but sucks in service, or a car that can look nice, and can be fixed and updated.

btw, a sixteen-wheeler, if you're going to go by this, would be more like a RAID storage server, a SAN storage unit or something. again, something that's very useful, but only limited application to people. but not something that everyone gets

[Q Classic]

btw, mr. nice guy, i notice that you still refuse to admit that the new imac is not fully expandable.